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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Shortlist is made up of the three players who have received the most votes from their peers. The winner is already known but issuing a shortlist allows for more "drama" at the awards ceremony (eg all short-listed players in attendance) plus creates more media coverage leading up to the naming of the actual winner.
Suprosed that Tomkins has made the top three myself but if that's how the rest of super league's players voted then so be it. Fore people to suggest he hasn't had a good season and isn't a good full-back is an embarassment.
Perhaps two Wigan players on the list may suggest a split of the vote going to recognise Wigan's acheivements this year and hopefully is a pointer towards that Morley has won. I hope so but if he hasn't I won't be throwing a tantrum akin to Wigan fans when Roby won.'"
Interesting. I'm going to contact News of the World to see if they can uncover who voted for who. I'd pay a grand for that, how interesting would it be!
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Honestly, do you think Adrian Morley has had a better season than Jamie Peacock or James Graham?'"
Definately had a better season than Peacock. Just had the edge on Graham IMO
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Interesting. I'm going to contact News of the World to see if they can uncover who voted for who. I'd pay a grand for that, how interesting would it be!'"
On GMR the other month (Thursday evening show) Phil Bailey from Wigan said last year he voted for Matt King - work that one out.
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| Morley is constantly consistent and therefore should consistently win the man of steel.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Honestly, do you think Adrian Morley has had a better season than Jamie Peacock or James Graham?'"
Yes.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Honestly, do you think Adrian Morley has had a better season than Jamie Peacock or James Graham?'"
It's hard to say, because while I watch Morley every week, I only see the other two in TV games, or when Wire play against them.
One thing I will say, though - I honestly thought Moz should have won Man of Steel last year. For me, while he has been great this season, he was simply unbelievable in 2009 and I was surprised that Hodgson beat him to it.
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| I think last weekends game showed the difference between Graham and Morley IMO.
Graham did just as much work as Morley but also scored a game-breaking try (should really have scored another too) and again showed some excellent ball handling in difficult conditions. He offers what Morley offers and a little bit more, and he offers it with the likes of Emmitt and Hargreaves backing him up, rather than Carvell/Wood.
Wouldn't begrudge Moz the award though, top player and top bloke.
I do, however, think it's a bit daft that Roby isn't shortlisted but hey, it's a player vote.
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| Quote ="Dyson"Dropkick, you say whoever wins it deserves it. I disagree, Roby won it over Barrett, that was a joke!'"
Wheny Roby won it, the award was decided by journalists and was effectively the RL Writers award. After "Robygate" the award has been decided by the players and is effectively the players association award. It would be hard to argue that the person the players voted for did not deserve the award as if anyone should know about rugby league and the contribution of individual players it is them.
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| Quote ="nathanwood7"Wheny Roby won it, the award was decided by journalists and was effectively the RL Writers award. After "Robygate" the award has been decided by the players and is effectively the players association award. It would be hard to argue that the person the players voted for did not deserve the award as if anyone should know about rugby league and the contribution of individual players it is them.'"
Roby has been much better this year than the year he won it and hasn't even made the short-list.
Probably bias, but I'd have Roby down as more deserving than Sam in 2010.
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| Morley hadn't been as good as he was last season when he really should have won the award. Westwood has surely been the best player at the club this year.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Morley hadn't been as good as he was last season when he really should have won the award. Westwood has surely been the best player at the club this year.'"
without a doubt westwood has been our best player.... strange award this man of steel.
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| I'd also question the ability of the players to choose. What are they judging off exactly? I can't imagine players will watch any more than what the fans do.
It would be better to let Stevo decide. That way the award could be handed out early March.
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| wasn't that long ago that football players voted ryan gigs as the best player in the league.. when he probably wasnt in the top 5 players at man utd.
players eh... what do they know?
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| Morley Morley Morley!
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| Quote ="Fear The Vee"I think last weekends game showed the difference between Graham and Morley IMO.
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The Man of Steel award isn't awarded on the basis of one game. It is the 27 game season that the players vote on.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"What a jerk.'"
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just remember this thread. that was after 17 rounds and hardly a mention of westwood in there.
There is no doubt he had a great end of the season, but over half way through the season and most of you lot didnt even give him a chance. The award is for the best player over the WHOLE season, and from that thread, you guys obviously didnt think he was in the running with 10 games to go.
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| Mathers Twitter anyone?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Honestly, do you think Adrian Morley has had a better season than Jamie Peacock or James Graham?'"
obviously the players of superleague do! or is it that moz has threatened to batter them all if they don't vote for him?
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| Of course Moz has been better than Peacock and Graham this year (again) or else one of them would be shortlisted and Moz wouldn't.
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| Quote ="74'"Of course Moz has been better than Peacock and Graham this year (again) or else one of them would be shortlisted and Moz wouldn't.'"
Sam better than Briers and Richards better than all your outside backs then?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I'd also question the ability of the players to choose. What are they judging off exactly? I can't imagine players will watch'"
They see much more than the fans do because their coach goes through match videos with them at training. They also know all the subtleties of play which fans don't pick up.
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| Good luck Mozza!
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| I would have said Graham has played better than Morley, though I'd say Morley has been better than Peacock, although that could also be because Peacock has been injured for large parts of this season.
I don't have any issue with Morley being short listed though; neither would I have had Graham been short listed.
Richards to win it though, mind.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Sam better than Briers and Richards better than all your outside backs then?'"
Yeah but if Atkins could kick goals he would not be far off!
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