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| Quote ="runningman29"Am I missing something here?The club let go Bullock who was playing decent then sign a player who’s well past his sell by date and yes he’ll prob be stealing a wage if he plays like he’s been doing for Wests.Discipline has been poor and he’s stunk the gaff out at Wests and that’s from their own fans and they are elated he’s going.Another one of Fitzpatricks long line of gimmick signings.'"
Don’t think Fitzpatrick is involved with the signings so much now. Regarding Bullock I have said before it’s really strange with him, could not get in the 17 then when he does he is soon dropped again. Burgess went on record saying there areas he needs to improve then he gets a new deal and now shipped out on loan. All vey odd, I think he may end up at Salford full time.
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| Wire let Bullock leave on loan, with a recall I believe, because Bullock isn’t a very good rugby player..
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| Quote ="Bobby Digital"Wire let Bullock leave on loan, with a recall I believe, because Bullock isn’t a very good rugby player..'"
Yes Bullock and Bateman are not really comparable in terms of quality. Plus the flexibility that Bateman gives in terms of possibly playing centre and being able to cover a Fitzgibbon injury is valuable.
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| Quote ="Wires71" can play centre or second row. Same age as Ben Currie. Strong as an ox, hits hard in defence. Bit of mongrel about him. '"
I see what you did there...
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| Quote ="runningman29"Am I missing something here?The club let go Bullock who was playing decent then sign a player who’s well past his sell by date and yes he’ll prob be stealing a wage if he plays like he’s been doing for Wests.Discipline has been poor and he’s stunk the gaff out at Wests and that’s from their own fans and they are elated he’s going.Another one of Fitzpatricks long line of gimmick signings.'"
Probably to do with the fact Bullock is crap and wouldn’t play with a broken finger nail.
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| IMO Bateman is done with regards to the NRL competition despite him being still under contract at Wests for another 2 years.
He's not coming over to SL on loan at Warrington for the remainder of the season and then going back to Wests to fulfill his remaining contract surely?
IMO he's after a big pay day in SL from 2025 onwards
Personally I would tread very carefully as he is well past his sell by date
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| Quote ="NSW"It’s an interesting one, obviously won a few GFs at Wigan and was ultra competitive but that drive seems to have gone.
Amazing at Wigan in 2014-2018
Amazing at Canberra in 2019
Injured at Canberra in 2020
Terrible at Wigan in 2021
Average at Wigan in 2022
Slightly above average at Wests in 2023
Terrible at Wests this year
Tigers fans want him gone this year judging from twitter.
But coming to England to a club going well and playing for fellow ex Bradford player Burgess will improve him.
My Wire supporting mates would prefer to play Holroyd though.
All chips are in to win that Grand Final.'"
A few Wire fans, and it seems someone within the ranks of our club wanted Dufty gone last season…
He was to be dropped…
Sam still in Aus and 2 weeks after the announcement of him coming for 2024, specifically said that Dufty must play the rest of the season.
In Sam we trust.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Probably to do with the fact Bullock is crap and wouldn’t play with a broken finger nail.'" Have you not seen Bateman play last couple seasons?He’ll think he’s won the lottery coming here on a good wedge.
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| Hopefully the late night that Fitzy and Sam had planned last night concluded the deal. Wests have been playing hard ball to get JB off their books permanently.
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| Quote ="runningman29"Am I missing something here?The club let go Bullock who was playing decent then sign a player who’s well past his sell by date and yes he’ll prob be stealing a wage if he plays like he’s been doing for Wests.Discipline has been poor and he’s stunk the gaff out at Wests and that’s from their own fans and they are elated he’s going.Another one of Fitzpatricks long line of gimmick signings.'"
Are you a troll? Your posts are so unremittingly negative - even in a season where we are playing some superb rugby - it's hard to believe you're really a Wire fan. However, to address your opening sentence: if it is your honestly-held opinion that shipping out Joe Bullock and bringing in John Bateman represents poor business on the club's behalf, then yes, you are missing something. Namely, the ability to watch rugby league matches and properly assess what you are seeing.
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| I have a slight apprehension to the Bateman signing if it is confirmed. Can he hit form like he did for the his first Wigan stint? However, would he get into the England side under Wane? yes i would imagine, so he could show the same bite and experience for Big Sam.
He has won the big time so maybe it does make sense to bring a calibre of his in, even if hes not hitting the same form, just for experience alone.
Time will tell. Up the wire.
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| It would appear the reason for Bateman's availability is that he had a bust up, similar to the one involving him at Wigan. You can't just erupt on the coach like that. This changes things for me. Too much potential to disrupt the squad's balance as we go into the most crucial part of the season. I can see a Hardaker 2017-style moment on the horizon, should we get to the grand final.
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Quote ="easyWire"It would appear the reason for Bateman's availability is that he had a bust up, similar to the one involving him at Wigan. You can't just erupt on the coach like that. This changes things for me. Too much potential to disrupt the squad's balance as we go into the most crucial part of the season. I can see a Hardaker 2017-style moment on the horizon, should we get to the grand final.'"
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/jo ... tedly-over
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https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/jo ... tedly-over
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| Quote ="easyWire"It would appear the reason for Bateman's availability is that he had a bust up, similar to the one involving him at Wigan. You can't just erupt on the coach like that. This changes things for me. Too much potential to disrupt the squad's balance as we go into the most crucial part of the season. I can see a Hardaker 2017-style moment on the horizon, should we get to the grand final.'"
You would like to think we have sufficient resilience to withstand something like this without too much drama. We had the unrest with Russell and Bullock and that was dealt with easily enough.
I think Bateman will have a lot of respect for Burgess.
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| Hardly likely to have a bust up with Burgess I would think. I remember a game very early though when he just got going in the Wigan side and he tried to have a go at Morley, I found it hilarious at the time but he does have bottle.
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| Quote ="karetaker" He does have bottle.'"
Not sure if you intended that pun?
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Not sure if you intended that pun?'"
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| Quote ="karetaker"No idea what you mean.'"
There was an alleged incident with Lee Mossop when they were both playing for Wigan.
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| Its all well and good thinking oh he (Bateman) will have respect for Burgess, what about the rest of the coaching staff and squad? anyone can act like teachers pet. If the decision was mine you couldn't pay me to have him in the squad, that being said you have to trust the coaching teams decision.
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| Two things that to me are prominent about Bateman.
1. A happy Bateman is a class player.
2. From his travelling people background, Bateman will fight anyone, he has little regard for danger. Makes him someone to avoid tussling with, including your coach.
My guess is the ideal formula for Bateman is being in a happy environment and having a coaching setup that puts an arm around you rather than waving it in your face.
I can’t think of any better place for Bateman that fits right now than Warrington.
I’m very much looking forward to him coming.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Two things that to me are prominent about Bateman.
2. From his travelling people background
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He can move in immediately on Junction Nine retail park. Nice one.
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| Quote ="easyWire"It would appear the reason for Bateman's availability is that he had a bust up, similar to the one involving him at Wigan. You can't just erupt on the coach like that. This changes things for me. Too much potential to disrupt the squad's balance as we go into the most crucial part of the season. I can see a Hardaker 2017-style moment on the horizon, should we get to the grand final.'"
I can see your point to a point BUT Hardaker in 2017 was pivotal to that Cas team 2nd in MOS behind Gale and all at 48hrs notice.
A happy productive Bateman for the run in is a gamble but we are hardly building the team around him and you would hope that we've got strong enough personalities on and off the field to deal with any shenanigans much in the same way as the Bullock Russell affair.
If the boot was on the other foot would we have taken a chance on T King or Cooper given their admittedley different indiscretions?
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| We have no idea what discussions have been held, who has said what to whom, what level of performance has been promised, what warning have been given, etc......but we have to trust our coaching team that they can get something out of Bateman between now and the end of the season.
If it doesn't work, then off he goes to Wakefield with every other off contract player!
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| Quote ="Mr Snoodle"We have no idea what discussions have been held, who has said what to whom, what level of performance has been promised, what warning have been given, etc......but we have to trust our coaching team that they can get something out of Bateman between now and the end of the season.
If it doesn't work, then off he goes to Wakefield with every other off contract player!'"
Totally with you on this. Hopefully he is here until the end of the season. We'll see how it goes & move on from there.
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