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| aaaaand he's gone
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"aaaaand he's gone'"
He left on friday. Had all been agreed by Wednesday evening. No idea why it's taken so long for the club to let the fans know. They are so out of touch with the fans at times.
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| Quote ="Wanderer"Cos believing the guilty party's Dad is definitely the way to go ...'"
No, with you there. There are some outlandish allegations made against the club in that post however, that reflect really badly on the club. They could easily take legal action if they considered them not to be true. It's going to be interesting to see how Warrington respond, if they do at all.
The allegation that McGuire played with head knocks and was told not to report them is scandalous in this day and age and with the heightened awareness of concussion issues and long term damage caused. Also, him having no feeling in his hand from a shoulder injury the club refused to scan in case they found an injury is a big allegation. Having seen how well Warrington treat the junior academy players at the club, I highly doubt there is any less focus on welfare in the first team. The suggestion that the club was unprofessional in not sending through the players supporting statements to the tribunal is something club will be unhappy about if not true as well.
I don't think this is over either. There will be a lot said once McGuire gets back to Australia no doubt.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"No, with you there. There are some outlandish allegations made against the club in that post however, that reflect really badly on the club. They could easily take legal action if they considered them not to be true. It's going to be interesting to see how Warrington respond, if they do at all.
The allegation that McGuire played with head knocks and was told not to report them is scandalous in this day and age and with the heightened awareness of concussion issues and long term damage caused. Also, him having no feeling in his hand from a shoulder injury the club refused to scan in case they found an injury is a big allegation. Having seen how well Warrington treat the junior academy players at the club, I highly doubt there is any less focus on welfare in the first team. The suggestion that the club was unprofessional in not sending through the players supporting statements to the tribunal is something club will be unhappy about if not true as well.
I don't think this is over either. There will be a lot said once McGuire gets back to Australia no doubt.'"
Garbage accusations that the club won’t waste time responding to. Saddened also knows they’re garbage but can’t contain his veiled glee in repeating them. Pathetic. Suppose it keeps the idiot off the RFL conspiracy though which weirdly seems to have died a death since an upturn in saints’ form.
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| I personally think this statement is very weak.
Quote The Club can confirm that Josh McGuire has left the Wire by mutual agreement with immediate effect.
McGuire has now returned to Australia with his family. We wish Josh well in his next chapter.'"
No mention of the club distancing itself from the remarks, or mention of standards it upholds - nothing.
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Quote Inclusivity and equality are values the club has worked hard to develop and maintain with excellent work in the community, womens' game, and PDRL. Unfortunately the RFL disciplinary committee has found Josh Maguire guilty of on-field offences on two occasions that strike right at the heart of these core values we strive to maintain. To that end it was no longer tenable for Josh Maguire to continue to represent Warrington Wolves RLFC and as such he has left the Wire by mutual agreement with immediate effect. We would like to wish him well in the future. The club will be making no further comment. '"
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| Is Pop McGuire's post still out there, not been able to view it thus far?
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| Quote ="Wires71"I personally think this statement is very weak.
No mention of the club distancing itself from the remarks, or mention of standards it upholds - nothing.
For example we could have said
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There was probably an agreement in place with both parties or there respective legal teams about the statement and they are usually short.
There is nothing to stop the club releasing a follow statement article about its inclusivity though.
I also naively thought that the delay was so they could get something on a replacement.
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| Thanks Wires71
As has been said, some outlandish allegations made there.
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| Quote ="Wanderer"Thanks Wires71
As has been said, some outlandish allegations made there.'"
Indeed. I don't believe the club would act like that. Mr Maguire is just sticking up for his son I guess and is lashing out.
On the whole a very unfortunate series of events that are best put behind all parties.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Garbage accusations that the club won’t waste time responding to. Saddened also knows they’re garbage but can’t contain his veiled glee in repeating them. Pathetic. Suppose it keeps the idiot....'"
Interesting you take it that way, when it's clearly not worded or intended like that.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Interesting you take it that way, when it's clearly not worded or intended like that.'"
Mate I can read you like a book and not a bloody good book like Bravo Two Zero. Go and tear down a 5G mast.
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| No doubt all the wires players are thinking would the club hang them out to dry if something cropped up ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Mate I can read you like a book and not a bloody good book like Bravo Two Zero. Go and tear down a 5G mast.'"
Which actually gets better with every read
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| Quote ="Superblue"No doubt all the wires players are thinking =#FF0000would the club hang them out to dry if something cropped up
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Please don't tell me we've signed Joe Westerman, again.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Please don't tell me we've signed Joe Westerman, again.'"
He can certainly take control around the perimeter and fill a hole in the backs
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| Quote ="karetaker"https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/warrington-wolves-respond-to-outlandish-claims-about-josh-mcguire-exit-77097/'"
I wonder which bits [iwere[/i true?
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| Quote ="Wires71"I wonder which bits [iwere[/i true?'"
I'm guessing .... Coach and Club didn't want him anymore.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I wonder which bits [iwere[/i true?'"
I actually thought that was a strange comment to add to the post.
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| Quote ="karetaker"I actually thought that was a strange comment to add to the post.'"
The comms and optics of this whole sorry saga have been a show.
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| The one thing that doesn’t need scrutiny is what he may or may not have said!…
McGuire didn’t need to have said anything the second time, even whispering ‘sorry Joel’ would have been so dumb and left himself open to a set up! Just keep his mouth shut and all would have been kosher for everyone….!
Which leaves one very simple question.,,why didn’t he?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"The one thing that doesn’t need scrutiny is what he may or may not have said!…
McGuire didn’t need to have said anything the second time, even whispering ‘sorry Joel’ would have been so dumb and left himself open to a set up! Just keep his mouth shut and all would have been kosher for everyone….!
Which leaves one very simple question.,,why didn’t he?'"
It comes down to what I said the other week in various forms and posts regarding this.
I had said that the responsibility of this comes down to Darryl Powell and the coaching staff to protect his players from anything that may arise.
Josh mcguire in the leaving him out of the leigh game. This would have protected him from anything that would have arisen and made sure that there would be no repeat of the pre season game.
I also extended this to the gil dudson red card at catalans. If what happened with Tom Johnstone is true. And that he did indeed sleep with dudsons wife as is rumored. I would protect dudson from himself and have left him at home for the catalan match and live to fight another day.
2 separate times in which the coaching staff. And in particular daryll Powell should have addressed and acted on the situation to not only protect the players involved. But also the club and the integrity of everyone.
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