True.

I meant in the past the players have seemed more motivated for a CC game than, let's say, a home playoff game ...

To be fair, I think we were the better team v Hull FC and that last grasp tackle...fine margins.

However, against Catalans we were shocking, really disappointing. No excuses, we shouldn't have been surprised how they were going to start as we were cheering them on v Saints in the double header semi only for them to do the same to us.

Gutted not to be able to get to the game as I'm off to Bangor on Dee racing (watching not riding) with Auntie grrr!!!

It'll be like that episode of Whatever happened to the Likely Lads when the Bob and Terry were trying to avoid the England v Bulgaria football score, as our coach has a few Salford fans on it so I'll know before I get to my Sony C5 whether it's worth watching

Or if Gidley hadn't missed that sitter goal kick at the start of the 2nd half...

Just seen a clip online of some Wembley memories and the Joel Monaghan try in 2012 is absolutely fantastic.

Some superb stuff in there though, the Briers pass for the Hicks try in 2009 is first class.

Once Gidley went off injured, the balance of the game changed.

Sandow was playing on with a severe knee injury and wouldn`t play another game until the Grand Final, when even then he still wasn`t ready and shouldn`t have played in the GF.

Danny Houghton has been dining out on that tackle for years, but Currie should still have scored regardless of the tackle. Fine margins, as you say, but it was Hull's day then, and hopefully it will be ours this time.

He was on the bench wasn't he? Brought on as a final roll of the dice.

Yes he came on to replace Dec Patton.

Unfortunately I think that if Wigan get even 2 points ahead, they will win. They are the business and know how to win these games when the scoreline is tight, they can shut up shop and defend their way home. Our final wins have virtually all been blow outs, except maybe 2009.

A grim final. We scored early in the first half then we looked like we would not score even if Wigan went home. Not too dissimilar to the 2016 final.

Anyone on here go to the 1990 final? The Wigan side then was formidable.

FB 1 Steve Hampson
RW 2 Joe Lydon
RC 3 Kevin Iro
LC 4 Dean Bell
LW 5 Mark Preston
SO 6 Shaun Edwards
SH 7 Andy Gregory
PR 8 Adrian Shelford
HK 9 Martin Dermott
PR 10 Andy Platt
SR 11 Denis Betts
SR 12 Andy Goodway
LF 13 Ellery Hanley (c)
Substitutions:
IC 14 Bobbie Goulding
IC 15 Ian Gildart

i dont think that/them will have any relevance on saturdays game

I was there in 1990.......didn't enjoy it very much.

Me too, I drove there and back in a day....seemed like a week!!

Yep, I was there.....we never stood a chance, but I'll forever remember Captain Fantastic's try. What a player Mike Gregory was, may he rest in peace.

Yes, I was there. It wasn't really a level playing field against Wigan in those days, but we tried our best to compete. We had a few notable league wins against them, but the 1990 final was one game where we were not really close, sadly. Mike Greg's try is my best memory of the day.

They definitely shouldn't do considering we only have 2 players from the last one let alone any others, so I understand the point for us, however Wigan are always the same, its unlikely they will stink the place out like Saints did.

I was there and remember Kevin Iro pushing Des Drummond, after Iro scored his try, but wishing he hadn`t after left Desi flattened Iro`s nose.

Don't you mean not too dissimilar to the 2018 one? Thought the one being referred to with Patton/Sandow WAS 2016.

Yes you are quite right, apologies.

2016 Lost 12-6 with an awful 59 minutes of watching the game drift away not being able to score after Patton scored
2018 Lost 12-4 with an awful 68 minutes of watching the game drift away not being able to score after Charnley scored.

Yes I was there - still have the programme, flag and hat! Mike Greg was outstanding that day.

To this day they haunt me, but not as much as 2013. We should've had that one done and dusted.

Thewlis is nowhere near as fast as some of the players discussed here. Not sure why people have that impression. He's been easily run down on a few breaks by faster players.

Because on other occasions he's also been like off a shovel.