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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"I’d be surprised to see him sacked even if it is thoroughly deserved. Him and KF are best mates and KF is more interested about retweets on Twitter and planning Wolfies next stunt.'"
What was wolfie's last stunt?
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| Quote ="karetaker"And it’s this that really infuriates me, I said this all a long time ago about Fitzpatrick but got shot down for it.Really jedward Sky divers wolves running around sh*&*ing on the pitch,I want that kind of entertainment il go to the zoo or Blackpool or where ever. I go to the stadium to watch sport and watch my team winning or at worse see us lose but at least look like they made an effort.
If Mr Moran and co don’t sort this out they may as well sell up and move on, have some balls and clear it all out have a fire sale or whatever, Donald Trump is being the biggest dick on the planet right now but I’d have him over Fitzpatrick.'"
Jedward?
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| Quote ="mark_m"Can we just clear up that it is all three of the coaches that need removing and not just Price. They are ALL responsible for this. One of these coaches had been involved throughout the Price tenure plus the dog end of Smith failure but escapes any criticism,
And yes Fitzpatrick also has to be the least impressive and least qualified CEO in sport.
Too much cronyism in this club and jobs for the boys. Complete clean sweep needed right through every position otherwise we will fail continually,'"
I don't know enough about Henderson's responsibilities to be sure. I think he is a smart guy and he did a great job at London.
Briers, absolutely. If his job isn't about making sure we have a decent attacking structure, what is it? I always thought it was a mistake for him not to have a couple of years down under or at a Championship club: after 20 odd years in the same environment, how else is he going to learn new things and fresh ideas? I guess the worry is that his golf handicap would take a hit.
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| Price been far better than TS and has never took us into the middle 8s
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| Quote ="Wistfulwire"Price been far better than TS and has never took us into the middle 8s'"
Alright Steve, on your way.
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| We need a credible experienced manager with a good track record, otherwise Ingles' talent will just be wasted (like Widdop has been this year).
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| Nothing on Sky sports or the BBC this morning so guess all still here, someone mentioned TS was here 2/3 seasons to long so really I should not be surprised nothing has happened. You don’t need replacements before you show current incumbents the door.
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| What's Cullen doing now
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| Quote ="Wistfulwire"What's Cullen doing now'"
upsetting people on the disciplinary committee
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| We seem to have this glass ceiling at the Wire where we can only perform to a certain level & that has been a problem all the years i have watched them. We get our nearest & dearest with similar financial positions as the Wire who can just pick a manager off a shelf who does the biz & they come up with players who want to perform & do their best for the club that is paying their wages. We seriously need to look at our overseas recruitment policy for a start when we have imports that either just go through the motions or can't even get on the bench. Hill & Cooper can't do it every week.
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| The best person to sort Wire out would be Shaun Wane. Whether he would take that job on, who knows, but it wouldn't be a surprise to me to see it happen.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"The best person to sort Wire out would be Shaun Wane. Whether he would take that job on, who knows, but it wouldn't be a surprise to me to see it happen.'"
Id be over the moon if Wane came to us. Love his mentality and we need a rocket up the arris!! Cant see him leaving England though as he hasn't even managed a game yet though?
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| Quote ="ninearches"We seem to have this glass ceiling at the Wire where we can only perform to a certain level & that has been a problem all the years i have watched them. We get our nearest & dearest with similar financial positions as the Wire who can just pick a manager off a shelf who does the biz & they come up with players who want to perform & do their best for the club that is paying their wages. We seriously need to look at our overseas recruitment policy for a start when we have imports that either just go through the motions or can't even get on the bench. Hill & Cooper can't do it every week.'"
We currently have overseas players that can`t even get into the 17 man squad.
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| Punt on Dennis betts
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| Quote ="Wistfulwire"Price been far better than TS and has never took us into the middle 8s'"
While you’re correct re middle 8’s, that is not the only barometer of a good job.
Smiths downfall, in my opinion, was a desire to complete projects. This was either a self driven campaign or forced upon him by a board unwilling to invest. This was seen in 2015, 2016 and 2017.
2015 saw players like Wheeler, Russell, Antony England etc. brought in trying to create a ‘Chris Hill’. Who was essentially a bargain superstar. Sandow came in too late to do anything (and was horribly unfit).
In 2016 we got Gidley, plus Hughes, Dodds, Cox, Bailey and Westerman. Gidley aside they were all project players. Patch up jobs or last roll of the dice. Still, won the league leaders shield and got to within a score in both of the major finals.
At this point, Smith either doubled down that he could change and develop players into a champion team - or his hand was forced by lack of money. (Draper era, so may have spend up on fancy lights, new club shop and new badges). So we got Blythe, Crosby and Pomeroy. Only Cooper turned out to be a good signing.
Against 2018 where we got BMM (dream team, huge fee) Roberts (Marquee), Goodwin, Charnley. 2019 Austin, Clark, Mamo on good money and 2020 with Widdop. All of these players are bought in on big money. In addition to the squad fillers, Gelling, Latu, Tasi, Thompson, Davis, Walker etc.
The board have backed Price. They have let him have the same luxury as Smith, to bring in potential talent in younger/project player, plus the added benefit of huge names being brought in from NRL first teams. Starters. Plus, cap-free additions like Charnley and Burrell. He’s brought in his own team (Henderson, Gardner etc) and had a chance for them to settle in. Last year we finished 5th in what was a two horse race in August. And this year we failed to beat Salford and Hull in the big games. He won one trophy in the three years of huge investment, same as Smith on a show string.
I don’t think we’re any further on. We’re essentially in the Cullen era again. Stars, but not good enough to make it count.
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| We will probably end up with Stuart Pearce
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"We need a credible experienced manager with a good track record, otherwise Ingles' talent will just be wasted (like Widdop has been this year).'"
Ian Millward has the ability if he would come
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| Quote ="Wistfulwire"Ian Millward has the ability if he would come'"
I’m not one to leap to conclusions, but “Betts” and “Millward” would suggest you are just here to troll.
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| Got to be Watson surely
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| No doubt if they are going to make a change KP will be Zooming Aussie coaches we have never heard of to replace Price, we could try for McDermott or throw big money towards Mr Wane or try to gazump Hudds to Watson if indeed he was ever going there at all?
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| Tony Smith is an infinitely superior coach to Price in [ievery aspect[/i.
TS coached us through a period when the comp was tougher and not only delivered better results but did it with style.
Price has been backed financially and has delivered dreadful rugby and failed to establish us as #1 in a competition which, at best, had 2 or 3 decent teams in it.
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| If Smith has his love for the game back....get him back
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| We need a proven winner. Simple as that. Wane or McDermott fit that bill. Jury still out on Watson for me. Hes done well, overachieving at Salford. But is this job with us a bit too soon for him?
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| Quote ="Longbarn Wire"We need a proven winner. Simple as that. Wane or McDermott fit that bill. Jury still out on Watson for me. Hes done well, overachieving at Salford. But is this job with us a bit too soon for him?'"
Was the Leeds job too soon for Tony Smith? Shall we just wait for watson star to fall and then appoint him when everyone views him as damaged goods having been released from another club? He's over achieved with what has been at his disposal for 2 seasons running, what more does he have to do? It's the polar opposite of what we are used to. From my viewpoint he looks to be exactly what we need.
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