I would suggest that perhaps having almost unlimited funds is both blessing and a curse. We seem to be almost reckless with our spending, and ithe attitude seems to be if such recklessness means we sign a few duds well ....... we dip back into the monopoly money.

I'm no Liverpool fan but I.compare their measured, prudent, considered transfer dealings (which have delivered sucess and entertainment from a relatively small outlay) with the likes of Chelsea who once again have turned their back on youth and splurged daft money in the pursuit.

We need to try the Liverpool model a bit more; spend every penny like it's our last and excercise some diligence and restraint. The exception to this is the coaching setup - our next marquee signing shouldn't be a player.

Bit of an over-reaction here. We spent far too much time in yesterday's game kidding ourselves that the sun was out, the pitch was bone dry and the stakes were low. That we managed a portion of the match playing the right style for the conditions (just as Leeds did for 80 minutes) shows this was the players, not the coach. I don't fall into the camp that Price should keep his job here automatically for another season. But if he is simply sacked because we fail to win the GF where do we get our next coach? Price himself seems to have, to some degree, got this job because we couldn't find anyone better. Do we want to be in the same boat again?

If we can waste money on a retired Aussie superstar, then I'd suggest that, if we tried hard enough, we could get a better coach than Price in??....

I tend to agree that this board has a tendancy to go over board and fairly quickly. Our poor start it was the Price isn't right. Our winning streak was probably over hyped and the Cup defeat sees us back to our early season pessimism

Champagne to Pomagne in 80 minutes.

Did we make a mess of it yesterday undoubtedly but I think that its fair that the coach and team are judged when our season is over not on a game by game basis

I don't think anyone is suggesting getting rid of Price at this exact moment. However, some are quite rightly suggesting that if at season's end we are trophyless, then it is time to move him on, as 3 years is ample time to have brought SL success and that it would be time to find an alternative.

I keep seeing who would we replace Price with, what about Anderson. When the Giants got shot of him the squad he had was mostly injured if I remember, he seems to be doing well with the youngsters, just a thought.

Sums up the Warrington mentality too. We had an open top bus parade after losing the Challenge Cup final in 1990.

We beat Featherstone, Trafford, Bradford and Oldham on the way to the final then got our s spanked by Wigan, and we had an open top bus parade. Wire fans of a certain vintage get misty eyed with nostalgia about that final, "Dessie broke Kevin Iro's jaw" they will say.

Wire fans will also mythologise the team of the mid/late 80s, which only won the Premiership and the Lancashire Cup, while moaning bitterly into their pint glasses about how Wigan 'ruined the game'. Ask any Wire fan of that era about players like Edwards, Hanley, Bell, Offiah and their reaction will be snide sneering rather than recognising these guys for having the relentless mindsets or outrageous talents that made them winners.

"Wigan were the only ones who were full-time" they will claim, as though that was the only difference. Rarely is it mentioned that because they were involved in the latter stages of every tournament, they usually had to fight the title run-in by playing 3 games a week, without the large squads and ability to rotate like today, and still managed to win.

You can see that mentality today with some of the threads on here.

At some point every season, we have some variation of the theme "selection headache - how do we fit all our greats in the team"

Last week there were people saying Tom Lineham will struggle to get back in to the side. Well if he was available and fit, I would have certainly wanted him in a game like yesterday because he's produced in big games.

When any of our players sign a new contract, there's lengthy fawning on here about "great news for the club, we're looking well set for the future". The question to ask when you see one of our players re-signing, is would Wigan or Saints have wanted to sign him? I bet you will rarely be able to honestly say yes.

There was a thread a couple of weeks ago discussing whether Ratchford was our greatest ever signing of the Super League era. Nothing against Ratchford who is a fine player in any era, but if we're discussing him as our greatest signing, it sums up the difference between us and clubs like Wigan, Leeds and Saints.

The other irony, is amongst the readiness to overhype many of the "nearly men" who play for Wire, there's a refusal to acknowledge how good Lee Briers really was.

Price isn't good enough. Nothing to do with yesterday's game. Thought before the kick off with the weather it was going to be a bit of a lottery so not blaming him for yesterday but this is a very good squad and they look clueless in the opposition 20 metre area. A good coach would have this squad battering the league.

There were a couple (maybe one but one is enough) comments after the semi-final draw on here. They were commenting on how good the draw was...not because Salford were the lowest league placed team left in the draw but because if we lost the semi it would be ok as it would be nice for Salford to get to Wembley. What kind of nonsense is this? We need to get ruthless and brutal as a club.

I honestly think if we had signed Holbrook when he was available instead of seeing the season out with Smith we would have won it. If saints had then signed players price he would have gone before this season started too, no way they would accept the play we had last season and the season before no matter how many finals it got us to.

I actually don't think its a bad thing that price has stayed maybe he has learnt as a coach and is now preferring an expansive style. I've really enjoyed watching us again recently aside from yesterday. I'd been bored and pretty fed up with wire for a fairly long time before that. I hope we win it this year I really do but Wigan, saints, Leeds and Catalans won't be pushovers.no guarantee we will make the playoffs nevermind win the final. If we don't finish top 4, it's time for a change, straight away. No messing will we, won't we. The very next day gone and the search can start. I'd like us to have candidates lined up now to be honest so the phone calls can be made straight away. Anderson and Henderson should definitely be in the frame though and also Watson.

It's a funny one this. I want warrington to win every game and I am disappointed when we suffer a defeat especially when we are probably the biggest spenders. I am realistic enough to realise that even the greatest teams get beat every now and then.
We should have won the challenge cup in 18 and I was gutted that we didn't but trying to find a silver lining to that cloud was that I was glad an expansion team won it so that the game in France would grow.
I love the game of RL and wish that every every school had a rugby pitch rather than a football pitch and that the kids were throwing a rugby ball around rather than kicking a football.
If Salford winning the Cup means that 100 kids in Manchester / Salford decide to take up RL then great.
That doesn't necessarily mean that if you think like that you are accepting mediocrity. You can be bloody annoyed at what is going on at your own club whilst still wishing Salford the best of luck.

In terms of Price I was vexed that the club extended his contract in year 1.Just getting to finals is not good enough. If somebody had come to me in May 2008 and said that over a 12 year period we would visit wembley 6 times, won 4 times and got to the GF 4 timesI would probably have taken it but with the money that has been spent and the players we have had we should have had more.
For me Price has 7/8 weeks left and if he lifts the big one then great but if we fall short then he can go along with Fitzpatrik.
The bottom line is that with the money spent then by the end of this year we should have won more than one CC final out of a possible 6 major trophies no excuses or reasons.

My feelings in a nutshell

So we're to sack a coach who gets us to two finals the year after playing in the middle eights?? No. Maybe at this point, but then, that was a reward for the immense improvement he'd made to the club from 2017. If we sacked every coach for not winning the big one in their first year then we'd find out pretty quickly that nobody would want or take the job! Ludicrous.

Ironically, all our tries yesterday came from within the opposition 20.

In that game we lost, not enough scored though. Leaving yesterday aside as like I said conditions were terrible. The shift from side to side is very slow and we look a bit clueless of how to create a try often resorting to a kick in the air on the 5th. Compare that to a few years ago when we could score for fun in those situations.

I'm certainly no coaching expert, but the reason for our attacking problems near to the line are blatantly obvious - our attacking line is simply too shallow. Players receive the ball stood still, meaning it almost inevitably turns into a game of pass the parcel and it makes it easy for the opposition defence.

If you watch any half decent NRL side you will see the angles that their centres and back rowers run and are almost always run from deep. It baffles me that Price has come from that league and seems unable to coach that into our players. With players with either the size or speed of the likes of BMM, Currie, Gelling and King, not being able to utilise them properly near the line is almost criminal. Throw in the fact we have 2 marquee half backs and you have to wonder what exactly Price and his staff are doing in training?

This topic sums up why I don’t come on the board for a couple of days after a defeat. I would be inclined to a knee jerk response and then feel I have to defend that position even though my view may have changed after a period of reflection.
Saturday did not sum up our season in a single game.
That match was played in atrocious conditions. A friend text me beforehand asking if I thought we would win my response “we should but this weather could play a large part. Leeds handled the conditions exceptionally well”.
And so it proved, After the match the same friend (a Widnes supporter so every reason to take the urine) sent that the conditions “made it a lottery”.
So disappointed, but not waving any white flags just yet.
I emphasise that this is from someone who did not want to keep Price at the end of last season.
We have played well since re start, in difficult circumstances, a number of young players have shown their potential, let’s see how this most extraordinary of seasons pans out and then take stock.

The difference is though that Liverpool have a world class coach and a world class Sporting Director. Unfortunately we have neither.

That’s very true, just look at Man United the past few seasons - money doesn’t guarantee you success.

I fully recognise how good Briers was, I also fully recognise a period of how often he fell short of that accolade more that he lived up to it.
If the decision was mine, he’d have been moved out whilst under Cull. However, TS came in and proved a better judge of player state of ability combined with patience and attitude than I. I’d have shot from the hip at the later of the 3 judgements. He called it right in the end.

Well I can't hold that against you as you weren't the only one who thought he should have been moved on at some point. For me it was in 2002, when Briers was out of contract, and there were rumours linking him with other clubs. I remember arguing on the old Wolfweb that we should let him go and look to pick up Andrew Dunemann who was out of contract at Halifax. At the time, and maybe for the next season or so, Dunemann was probably the better player, certainly the more reliable. But that would have been a shocker of a decision in the long run so I'm glad we didn't.

Just shows that you shouldn't be too wedded to your own 'hot takes' on the internet and change your mind when reality proves you wrong.

I have been a massive Briers fan since the mid Cullen era, but I still feel a bit of a sneaky hypocrite when I talk about Briers, because of what I used to think in the early days. I thought he was a bit overrated when people were slating David Waite for not picking him.

I just thought I'd thread bump this, after last night's sh0w

Spot on I know fans of all beaten teams will complain about the opposition but Wigan are masters of pushing the boundaries

Their line speed was fantastic in defence and the interference at the Austin ptb on the 5th under the sticks 2nd half by Powell resulting in a knock on was typical.

I'm not complaining we all do it they are just better at that facet of the game than we are particularly the flat pass to Farrell routine his try was the only legitimate pass he received all night

To endorse the point, over on the Wigan forum the mood is one of "yeah we won but Lam still isn't the man for the job" ..... "don't be fooled, Wires halves were awful" ...... "only a GF win can save Lam" etc etc.

I suspect RedVee has similar mutterings of discontent after another patchy show by Saints.

I'm not a hire em fire em type, but the management team need to grow a pair. Warrington RLFC isn't your fantasy team, or your plaything, or your hobby. Get a grip.

Leeds fans had something similar with McDermott, yet look at his cV.
It's something only we can look at with envy