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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"We could meet shatalans in the play offs..that will be fun...'"
You need to win 2 out of your last 5 games if you don't you might not be playing anyone in the play offs................it would be all over.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"You need to win 2 out of your last 5 games if you don't you might not be playing anyone in the play offs................it would be all over.'"
That's why I said could..
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| As a Neutral, i posted well before the end, that we should be watching a top class rugby match, NOT the James Child show, his constant and shouting, and whistle blowing for petty misdemeanours was sheer lunacy. It was obvious he would lose control of the game, the crowd trouble was auwful, Women and kids subjected to that was inexcusable, no one can condone that, but the players and Childs have to shoulder some blame.
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"That's why I said could..'"
Yes, but we know your could was meant to be outside 2nd place when mathematically but unlikely you could go 6th.
On the ref topic, on the Friday night we had the worse referee so far this season with head shots, off sides and lying on galore, our Captain in Roby approached the ref with respect unlike Captain "Burst a blood Vessel" Smith.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Yes, but we know your could was meant to be outside 2nd place when mathematically but unlikely you could go 6th.
On the ref topic, on the Friday night we had the worse referee so far this season with head shots, off sides and lying on galore, our Captain in Roby approached the ref with respect unlike Captain "Burst a blood Vessel" Smith.'"
Wasn't meant to come across as that but seeing as you know a lot about sod all we.ll leave it there...as for your point about captains I totally agree..but you do have players chirping in the refs ear..
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| Quote ="robin4ever"As a Neutral, i posted well before the end, that we should be watching a top class rugby match, NOT the James Child show, his constant and shouting, and whistle blowing for petty misdemeanours was sheer lunacy. It was obvious he would lose control of the game, the crowd trouble was auwful, Women and kids subjected to that was inexcusable, no one can condone that, but the players and Childs have to shoulder some blame.'"
And this is why it's not the refs fault.
You say he gave too many penalties causing the issue.
Others said he let too much go causing the issue.
He did none of the foul play and he did not storm the ramparts.
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| Child sin binned 3 players in that match before it's farcical end. By the end of the match, he had shown 4 yellow cards and 2 red cards. That is almost unprecedented in a rugby league game.
If he had shown any more in the match, then no doubt Child would have been accused of "making it all about him". If players refuse to follow the rules and earlier punishments don't act as a deterrent - what can Child do?
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| Spear tackle on Austin - Child's response "I can only give what I can see". How could he miss that?
McIllorum rips off Hill's head guard as third man in a tackle - Child's response "I can only give what I can see". Again how could he miss it.
On 60 minutes McIllorum (again) deliberately knees Clark in the head at the play the ball - Child's response "I can only deal with what i see". It is so obvious it's silly.
Given these snidey incidents going unpunished whilst Bird's Hollywood acting throwing his head back when tackled on his shoulder gets a penalty it is no surprise that eventually players look to take things into their own hands. Especially when you have seen three players likely to miss Wembley with ligament damage, ruptured testicle and fractured eye-socket from a ninja tackle, leading with the knee and dropping on the head with the knees respectively all from un-punished, in my opinion, foul play. It will be interesting whether the disciplinary review panel make of these "challenges".
Child is not fit for purpose as far as refereeing at the top level.
In no way am I linking the off-pitch scenes with the above - that's a combination of idiots and beer (probably on both sides).
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| What a laughable thread, the guy who started this should be embarrased by it blaming a referee for fans fighting in a stand ?? come on your players and fans were disgrace last night and posts like this add to that
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"James Child hang your head in shame - you created all that. The game spiralled out of control because you allowed Catalans to get away with horrendous tactics all game and your excuse was continually “I didn’t see it”!
Yet you saw and managed to penalise and sin bin Warrington players for high tackles, two of which were across the collar and one was under the arm pit.
He allowed constant second or third man purposeful knees in tackles by Catalans, constant second or third man purposeful landing on heads in tackles, knees in the face, ripping off head guards, head high shots by Catalans set after set after set after set all game and creating an air of violence.
It caused all the second half fighting, it caused the fighting in the stands.
I was after beating someone up I was so angry and I was only sat at home!
Catalans and McNamara are also to blame as it was their tactics to rough Wire up, as are the lads in the stands who didn’t have to fight. But it was all down to the referee and his officials allowing the dirty tactics by Catalans.
James Child, watch that full 80minites back and, as I said as the start, hang your head in shame!'"
Biggest load of one-eyed twoddle I have ever read. And I've read some of Jean's post.
Wire should be banned from RFL for life. Catalans should have all their points taken away and should be relegated to the Championship.
Any fan found guilty of fighting should be banned for life, should have their passports taken away.
Thugs, the lot of you. Anybody defending this should be ashamed.
Yes. Every one of you is a thug.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Spear tackle on Austin - Child's response "I can only give what I can see". How could he miss that?
McIllorum rips off Hill's head guard as third man in a tackle - Child's response "I can only give what I can see". Again how could he miss it.
On 60 minutes McIllorum (again) deliberately knees Clark in the head at the play the ball - Child's response "I can only deal with what i see". It is so obvious it's silly.
Given these snidey incidents going unpunished whilst Bird's Hollywood acting throwing his head back when tackled on his shoulder gets a penalt[uy it is no surprise that eventually players look to take things into their own hands. [/uEspecially when you have seen three players likely to miss Wembley with ligament damage, ruptured testicle and fractured eye-socket from a ninja tackle, leading with the knee and dropping on the head with the knees respectively all from un-punished, in my opinion, foul play. It will be interesting whether the disciplinary review panel make of these "challenges".
Child is not fit for purpose as far as refereeing at the top level.
In no way am I linking the off-pitch scenes with the above - that's a combination of idiots and beer (probably on both sides).'"
totally disagree, if your not getting the rub of the green by the ref it doesnt give you the right to start being houses in the game. The ref did give them the rub but wire should have stuck to the game plan and hurt them on the scoreboard instead.
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| I thought Mr.Child had a reasonable game in very difficult circumstances .We can all use selective evidence such as Warrington's 5 high tackles in a short time .
What I want to know is why so many of our players were so stupid when the game was clearly won . This could ruin our chance of a top 5 place despite the easy looking run in . Some of the Warrington players also lack composure to put it mildly .
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"Biggest load of one-eyed twoddle I have ever read. And I've read some of Jean's post.
Wire should be banned from RFL for life. Catalans should have all their points taken away and should be relegated to the Championship.
Any fan found guilty of fighting should be banned for life, should have their passports taken away.
Thugs, the lot of you. Anybody defending this should be ashamed.
Yes. Every one of you is a thug.'"
Now I've just read an even bigger load of twaddle..as a 9 year old written this
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| Rugby league is a contact sport, what happens on the pitch is never an excuse for fans throwing punches at each other. Blaming the ref, yr joking
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| Players and refs seem to be too pally in the modern game....Refs calling players by their first names and seemingly any member of a team can question the refs decision...The rule used to be that only the team captain could talk to the referee...Ratboy is a big offender but the very worst is the Toronto half back McClone is his name ? He's in the refs earhole from the kick off to the final hooter. Back in the day it used to be Eric Clay booming *MURPHY COME 'ERE*
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| The Warrington fans at the game were an absolute disgrace and the attitude of fans on social media after it has been absolutely shocking as well. The OP should be ashamed at starting a thread like this.
For anyone to blame last night on James Child is beyond me. How on Earth is it his fault that grown men felt the need to try and attack Catalans fans? No referee should have to put up with what he did last night. Quite frankly, Warrington fans are thugs who can’t control themselves and resort to violence quite regularly. The behaviour of Chris Hill was also disgraceful. If I was a Warrington fan I would be ashamed of my club because once again you have shown yourselves to be Rugby League’s shame. I hope there is a big fine and points deduction coming your way.
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| Just watched the full game and James Child had a big job on his hands by way of Chris Hill trying to referee the match, can someone put a muzzle on his gob he was a disgrace. I would expect Edwards to get a fair ban for incitement of more trouble.
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| I have watched Salford put 90 points on Catalan in 2 games with only 14 against.Catalan played up the middle with their much larger pack.Wire tried to mix it with the Catalan forwards instead of going round the outside.Steve Mac the Cats coach is still coaching as in the old days with big cumbersome aggressive forwards.He obviously told them to take Austin and Ratchford out of the game.Tomkins his usual irritating self going in with knees when 3rd man.Crowd trouble by frustrated fans down to the somebody on the top tier shouting down to wire fans.Childs sorry its time to retire he cant even get video ref correct robbing Salford of victory at Saints.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Just watched the full game and James Child had a big job on his hands by way of Chris Hill trying to referee the match, can someone put a muzzle on his gob he was a disgrace. I would expect Edwards to get a fair ban for incitement of more trouble.'"
You watched that game again and the thing you pick up on is a bit of whining from Chris Hill??!! Have a word with yourself? Did you see the two knees to the head causing Daryl mild mannered clark to lose it? Hughes having a testicle ruptured? Austin spear tackled early doors and McIlroum/Edwards (in your eyes) with a pre-meditated high tackle which caused the brawl? Any other team on the receiving end of that and we'd be talking about how grubby Catalans were. One eyed.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"You watched that game again and the thing you pick up on is a bit of whining from Chris Hill??!! Have a word with yourself? Did you see the two knees to the head causing Daryl mild mannered clark to lose it? Hughes having a testicle ruptured? Austin spear tackled early doors and McIlroum/Edwards (in your eyes) with a pre-meditated high tackle which caused the brawl? Any other team on the receiving end of that and we'd be talking about how grubby Catalans were. One eyed.'"
Where’s this come from about Hughes? Horrible news! How ratticus can criticise Chris Hill when Tomkins was in Child’s ear for eighty minutes is beyond me. One eyed indeed.
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| Quote ="matt_wire"Where’s this come from about Hughes? Horrible news! How ratticus can criticise Chris Hill when Tomkins was in Child’s ear for eighty minutes is beyond me. One eyed indeed.'"
Tomkins is usually complaining about something specific or relevant to what's just happened. If Catalans are penalised, he'll claim they didn't do it, or claim a previous decision didn't go their way and was the same. Referees don't mind that sort of interaction, as long as it's not aggressively delivered. Hill is just an idiot and so disrespectful when it comes to talking to the refs. I've never met him so can't say if it's just his level of intelligence that's the issue, but he just comes across as dismissive, ignorant and disrespectful. His communication is so puerile, often he just ignores what the referees have explained to him and repeatedly asks what the penalty was for, when the referee had just told him. He complains at the wrong times, he complains when it's the most blatant decision ever.
I'd be amazed if he's not punished for the 'chat' they had when he was pretending to be Jesus and trying to part the waves instead of just allowing the referee to finish the game like he wanted to so he could get the players off the field. Players have been banned this year simply for appealing for a decision using a swear word, he repeatedly swore right to the refereee's face.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Hill is just an idiot and so disrespectful when it comes to talking to the refs. I've never met him so can't say if it's just his level of intelligence that's the issue, but he just comes across as dismissive, ignorant and disrespectful. His communication is so puerile, often he just ignores what the referees have explained to him and repeatedly asks what the penalty was for, when the referee had just told him. He complains at the wrong times, he complains when it's the most blatant decision ever.
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I agree with this. I cringe whenever he speaks to a ref and it never helps us, he just antagonizes them.
Compare that with Morley who, while having many run-ins with refs, knew how to speak to them.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Tomkins is usually complaining about something specific or relevant to what's just happened. If Catalans are penalised, he'll claim they didn't do it, or claim a previous decision didn't go their way and was the same. Referees don't mind that sort of interaction, as long as it's not aggressively delivered. Hill is just an idiot and so disrespectful when it comes to talking to the refs. I've never met him so can't say if it's just his level of intelligence that's the issue, but he just comes across as dismissive, ignorant and disrespectful. His communication is so puerile, often he just ignores what the referees have explained to him and repeatedly asks what the penalty was for, when the referee had just told him. He complains at the wrong times, he complains when it's the most blatant decision ever.
I'd be amazed if he's not punished for the 'chat' they had when he was pretending to be Jesus and trying to part the waves instead of just allowing the referee to finish the game like he wanted to so he could get the players off the field. Players have been banned this year simply for appealing for a decision using a swear word, he repeatedly swore right to the refereee's face.'"
Watch it again and you’ll hear Hill explaining that his family is stuck in the middle of that. While the ref wants his team to play the penalty and possibly cause more aggro. The two consecutive high tackles probably incited or at least contributed to what happened in the crowd to some level. More wouldn’t help. Stop finding fault where there isn’t any; yes Hill isn’t a saint and was possibly at fault elsewhere in the game, as in many other games, but not in that particular instance.
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| Quote ="matt_wire"Watch it again and you’ll hear Hill explaining that his family is stuck in the middle of that. While the ref wants his team to play the penalty and possibly cause more aggro. The two consecutive high tackles probably incited or at least contributed to what happened in the crowd to some level. More wouldn’t help. Stop finding fault where there isn’t any; yes Hill isn’t a saint and was possibly at fault elsewhere in the game, as in many other games, but not in that particular instance.'"
The ref wanted him to tap the ball and kick it off the pitch so he could end the game, how would that cause more agro? If he had just done that when the ref asked instead of constantly asking him to end the game there and then, after Child had already explained repeatedly he couldn't do that, it would have been over quicker.
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| James Child's performance was one of the weakest I have witnessed (from the sofa), he is not of the required standard and he does not command any respect from the players.
There were things going on that have no place in the game and those in charge should be looking directly at that and dealing with him in the appropriate manner.
Chris Hill should be removed from captaincy before the next game he is not capable, he is not a leader.
As for the other stuff that went on, I wasn't there, neither were the vast majority on the those commenting so lets leave that to those who can sift the information, videos and testimony to at least try and resolve the issues we are now faced with.
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