Cas fans said for years that Ellis would finish his career there, but never did, no way can they say what will happen in 2/3 years, things change, maybe they won't be good enough for Cas or they are struggling and couldn't afford to sign these 3, lots change.

As for the Westerman to Hull rumours I don't see it, doubt we would pay a fee and you won't rightly release him for free.

I certainly dont believe the part of the rumour where Westerman is going to contribute to the fee himself, but its plausible that this move could happen. Its looking increasingly likely that Ellis will retire this year, and his boots are too big to fill internally, so we are very much in the market for a top loose forward. Westerman fits the bill as well as anyone. Hull didnt really want to lose him in the first place, and maybe he has now come to realise he liked it better at Hull and now that we can offer him a realistic shot at silverware maybe he does want a return.

Fwiw I dont think theres anything in it, but as rumours go its a reasonable one.

fake news

I would hope that we would only consider it if fauna was on his way to us.

Wouldn't want him to leave but I feel in the back row we can handle his departure livett or savellio could go to loose and develop their game in a settled position

You might want to reel it in a bit on the "Hull didn't want to lose him in the first place" comment. That's your opinion and certainly not that of anyone connected to the club

I seem to remember Hull fans laughing their socks off when we took him off you.

"Can't believe they've paid that, they've done us a massive favour."

"He's never done anything for us, too inconsistent"

"Never lived up to the hype he had at Cas"

You know that sort of thing. Funny what a change of scenery does for a player.

To be fair they were pretty much right he was inconsistent and we did well to get a great fee, which allowed us to invest in the right areas and have our best season for years. I think a change of scenery was good for Joe, I'm not sure why he left Hull, if it was our, his or a joint decision. But things change and maybe Joe wants to come back or Radford sees him as a good replacement for Ellis or Mini.

Could and probably is a load of nonsense though, guess we will find out soon.

You're not wrong there - westerman was an England player at Hull, now nowhere near the international squad

He's pretty close to three of the England squad at Warrington whereas at Hull the number of players in the England side at weekend was....?

Let's be honest....Hull any much more that a decent spine and a stock of south sea islanders who do only as told.

I'll take top 4 with only 1 England squad player over bottom 4 with 3

How sad. Part of the reason why RL in England is on its .

How's that bitter tasting on this lovely sunny day

I think this thread has reached rock bottom, so it's now closed.