He signed a 4 year deal in May 2014 at Wigan. h covering 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017 season so his contract is up at the end of next season, no?

Apparently his dad now works on the scholarship at Warrington. Think e was coach at Whitehaven last year too.

Williams to you is nothing more than talk, there is a chance he'll leave next year but that'll be to the NRL, let's face it and this might sound arrogant but imo going from Wigan to any other super league club is a step down, there's no credible source to this story

Whom ever we sign let's try and get it wrapped up soon so that they have a decent amount of preseason time with new team mates.
For me I would go with Joe Mellor on a 2 year deal.

I have it on good Elf authority, Williams will be turning up for preseason training as a Wire in Nov 2017 wether you like it or not.
It's a done deal.
Now if you know of any dwarf that knows better then my Elves, then please enlighten me. I won't except the word of an Ogre so that counts Shaun Wane out.

Can't we play Russell at HB? He makes great yardage.

It does sound arrogant, especially if I was a Leeds fan.

Larger fan base.
More titles.

I'm no Ratchford fan, before anybody gets the wrong idea.....

Last year him and Patton looked ok, the Catalan game away Patton controlled the game and we looked good with a weakened side.

I would go with Gids at full back, Ratchford 6 and Patton 7. If it doesn't work, we have a space on the cap to bring in another half back.

Just a thought

Leeds? He doesn't want to end up playing in the middle 8s

What a load of crap haha

Well not many days left in November!

Well if Ratch and Dec are out for a few weeks at the start of the season let's hope Gidley and Smith are fit and remain so (unless Westerman is used).

It'll be an indifferent start for us next year I think but I'm not too concerned at that.

Not sure how we go about recruiting because most decent halves will want a 2 year contract minimum.
It'd be a push for Dec to be in week in week out but 2018 would be a different matter.

Well, TS certainly has a big enough shopping list....Barba, Carney, Brown, Mellor, Eastmond & Miller ,or just stick with Patton. Decisions,decisions.

Oops just realised the feathered one said November 17...so there are quite a few days left!

Nov 17 is what I said
17 November isn't.

I cannot answer for your confusion.
Perhaps your mother stuck your feeding bottle up your ass?!

I realise I may have inadvertently breached the rules when I mentioned my 22" FS tv (still for sale and in midnight black, with full remote control and [uwall supports[/u if required), but asking another poster if he received his milk feed via an alternative 'port' certainly sounds to me as though you are stretching the rules well beyond Mr Hooks rules of elasticity. It's nearly Xmas, play nicely and don't get grumpy.

The intention wasn't to come across grumpy as yours wasn't to come across pedantic to me yesterday.

My intention was one of bating the ball back adding humour to his earlier attempt of wit.

Other than that all is good as is the thought of a 22" flat screen for my caravan.

would you like a Now TV box configured with a 12 month sports package to go with that TV?

It is a good job the Wigan Academy knows how to produce players otherwise we would be struggling in key positions.

Is that now Brown, Russell, Ratchford, Crosby, Currie and Hughes?

Looking at the squad it looks like another season of failure to me.

"outdone on retention" could have been an offer of e.g. £80k salary by both clubs, but Wire offering a 4yr deal whilst Wigan offering only 2yrs. So it was not at all pedantic, I was just trying to clarify.

We could do as well as any team in SL with the team we seem to be settling for. Quality throughout the league is not great & the team that does well could just be the best of a bad bunch.

The Brown signing and the rumoured £100k just shows the mess snake Sandow left is in in. But it's total desperation and we'll no doubt end up with him and Gidley sat in the stand at the same time

Yet another nearly season looming

Just another drop in quality looming this season, and the whole of SuperLeague continues to decline in quality. The sport will be back part time before you know it

The boring rugby we ended up playing at the end of the season, will no doubt continue, reliant on Clark and a winger who's not a winger scoots from dummy half.

The crowds will begin to vote with their feet and drift away

We're doooooomed!
Happy Jack or what? Cheer up ... please.

Us and the sport as a whole are on an ever increasing downwards spiral. The quality served up last season was average at the very best. The sheer dearth in quality highlighted in 4 nations

If you're happy with Kevin Brown as any type of solution, then your happy with the mediocrity of this league and this team.

Each to their own hey

I'm lost, not for the first time...Was RD having a go at me AFTER I admitted my misreading of his post?