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| Great game, magnificent effort from both teams, well done Wires for hanging in there in the 1st half, Wigan perhaps just edged it from having the extra rest.
Season surpassed expectations, given senior players leaving, but the guys stood up well, roll on 2015.
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| Awesome game - by far the best of all the play off games and something that Wigan and Saints have to live up to next week.
Good effort Wire, enjoy your off season, see you next year.
Good luck to the U19s in their final tomorrow.
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| Smith had every right to be angry with the performance at the end there. You were gifted three gilt edged chances by Wigan errors and failed to capitalise on them. You were too obsessed with the one, the best chance of scoring a drop goal is when the line is under pressure and feels vulnerable to conceeding a try. If you make it as obvious as Wire did, the other team can just compress and shoot out to stop it.
The obstruction penalty was very poor play for that level too. Absolutely no need for any dummy running in that play at all and another waste of pressure.
You did well to stay in the game first half and failed to take your chances. Another year's experience for Myler, O'Brien, Russell and particularly Ratchford and with Clarke on board I'd back you as good favourites for next year.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Smith had every right to be angry with the performance at the end there. You were gifted three gilt edged chances by Wigan errors and failed to capitalise on them. You were too obsessed with the one, the best chance of scoring a drop goal is when the line is under pressure and feels vulnerable to conceeding a try. If you make it as obvious as Wire did, the other team can just compress and shoot out to stop it.
The obstruction penalty was very poor play for that level too. Absolutely no need for any dummy running in that play at all and another waste of pressure.
You did well to stay in the game first half and failed to take your chances. Another year's experience for Myler, O'Brien, Russell and particularly Ratchford and with Clarke on board I'd back you as good favourites for next year.'"
Can't give you an argument...but I don't think Myler will be blessing us with that experience next year.
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| Warrington totally blew it. Tonight was the grand final, the wait could have been over. 3 opportunities in the final 10 minutes and each one squandered.
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| Great support from the Warrington fans tonight at the DW. Its a shame no other team brings as many and makes so much noise
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| I've posted many times on here, that I'm SICK TO DEATH of heroic defeats since SL's inception.
As well as many hammerings we took off Saints, we also had many close shaves, and there lays the problem. We rarely turn these close shaves into WINS, be it Wigan or Saints.
WE LACK KILLER INSTINCT. in the last 10 minutes tonight, we blew chance after chance. A clinical side would have won that game. You don't HAVE to go for a drop goal. The opposition think you might be aiming for the posts, let them make gaps for you to exploit.
Typical Wire at their frustrating best.
After 4 games this season, I'd have said we'd be happy to make the top 8. But we turn it around, and we look like a team again, and we make a CC semi, and come within 3 mins of extra time in another semi.
I think we've overachieved this year.
Losing Morley, Briers and Carvell
Wood being about as much use as Telly Savallas' comb, likewise Asotasi (who's done okish since late August)
and some smashed up bodies.
I felt p1553ed off after the final whistle, only because of our own naivety. That game was there for the taking.
Next season....let's kick on, just let's get a killer instinct, eh lads?
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"I felt p1553ed off after the final whistle, only because of our own naivety. That game was there for the taking.
Next season....let's kick on, just let's get a killer instinct, eh lads?'"
That's a much deeper routed problem than one coach or set of players fixes IMO. As much as I hate them you have to respect Wigan for this. Their individual players are not anything to write home about at all, yet they share the same clinical execution and refusal to lose as the Hanleys and Edwards from the past.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"That's a much deeper routed problem than one coach or set of players fixes IMO. As much as I hate them you have to respect Wigan for this. Their individual players are not anything to write home about at all, yet they share the same clinical execution and refusal to lose as the Hanleys and Edwards from the past.'"
you keep saying that but its clearly not true.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"That's a much deeper routed problem than one coach or set of players fixes IMO. As much as I hate them you have to respect Wigan for this. [uTheir individual players are not anything to write home abou[/ut at all, yet they share the same clinical execution and refusal to lose as the Hanleys and Edwards from the past.'"
really?
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| Quote ="dubairl"you keep saying that but its clearly not true.'"
Why isn't it? When you look at that Wigan lineup, how many stand out as truly elite players? O'Loughlin is incredible, Burgess, Sarginson, Crosby and Bateman look top prospects, but the rest? Your squad has got weaker year on year yet you are going to be back to back champions.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"That's a much deeper routed problem than one coach or set of players fixes IMO. As much as I hate them you have to respect Wigan for this. Their individual players are not anything to write home about at all, yet they share the same clinical execution and refusal to lose as the Hanleys and Edwards from the past.'"
...and for once Saddened, I think you've hit the nail on the head.
Yes, they have quality (SO'L, Green, Smith) but they also have bang average in Dudson, Flower etc, and lets not get overexcited in the likes of Sarginson and Burgess. They're team players and that's it. But that's where the gorilla is excelling himself. He's making a fairly decent team, overachieve.
I wish we could say the same.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Awesome game, unlucky lads, great season, you've done us proud and excelled all my expectations.'"
Agreed, I enjoyed that game, gutted about the result but onwards and upwards. Fair play to Wigan no major complaints from me about tonight.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"...and for once Saddened, I think you've hit the nail on the head.
Yes, they have quality (SO'L, Green, Smith) but they also have bang average in Dudson, Flower etc, and lets not get overexcited in the likes of Sarginson and [uBurgess.[/u They're team players and that's it. But that's where the gorilla is excelling himself. He's making a fairly decent team, overachieve.
I wish we could say the same.'"
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Why isn't it? When you look at that Wigan lineup, how many stand out as truly elite players? O'Loughlin is incredible, Burgess, Sarginson, Crosby and Bateman look top prospects, but the rest? Your squad has got weaker year on year yet you are going to be back to back champions.'"
Bowen still one of the best full backs in super league
Burgess for me the best winger in super league and tony smith agrees apparently
sarginson - good club man thats it could excel
Gelling the best centre we have had since carmont, people won't credit him because of how green he was before this season
Charnley one of the best wingers in super league
Green the best stand off in super league
smith best english scrum half in super league
Flower rate him the best prop since craig smith, other teams fans won't rate him but he smash people and makes yards all the time
McIlorum say what you want but one of the best hookers in super league and theres a reason people in the game rate him highly
probably the downfall but Taylor when in form is a quality prop
Farrell one of the best 2nd rows in super league
Joel Tomkins far from average need to see how he carries on after returning
O'loughlin Best player in super league
That 1-13 is far from average no matter how much you trying to use "they work together but are average individually" coping mechanism
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"...and for once Saddened, I think you've hit the nail on the head.
Yes, they have quality (SO'L, Green, Smith) but they also have bang average in Dudson, Flower etc, and lets not get overexcited in the likes of Sarginson and Burgess. They're team players and that's it. But that's where the gorilla is excelling himself. He's making a fairly decent team, overachieve.
I wish we could say the same.'"
Can't let the Flower being average comment go.
Dudson is awful (a bag of wind) but Flower is our best prop forward. Crazy comment.
Also Burgess could be very special.
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| Quote ="dubairl"Bowen still one of the best full backs in super league
Burgess for me the best winger in super league and tony smith agrees apparently
sarginson - good club man thats it could excel
Gelling the best centre we have had since carmont, people won't credit him because of how green he was before this season
Charnley one of the best wingers in super league
Green the best stand off in super league
smith best english scrum half in super league
Flower rate him the best prop since craig smith, other teams fans won't rate him but he smash people and makes yards all the time
McIlorum say what you want but one of the best hookers in super league and theres a reason people in the game rate him highly
probably the downfall but Taylor when in form is a quality prop
Farrell one of the best 2nd rows in super league
Joel Tomkins far from average need to see how he carries on after returning
O'loughlin Best player in super league
That 1-13 is far from average no matter how much you trying to use "they work together but are average individually" coping mechanism'"
Wrong thread Troll
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| Terrific game, sad there had to be a loser.... Wire had their chances to win...
Re comments further up, If we are getting weaker, where does that put everybody else?
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| Gutted we lost but that was a game that I felt we really had no right to be in a winning position, even with the score so close we found it difficult to get out of our 20 never mind half. We had chances but silly play and lack of composure at crucial times was costly.
Memories of the challenge cup semi where Leeds were too physical for us and wore us down, tonight we managed to keep in the game till the last minutes and could have snatched a win.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Wrong thread Troll'"
troll? you need to look up the meaning fella
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| Quote ="Pieman" you need to look up the meaning fella'"
its a boy or a man.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"You look knackered though and wigan have been a relentless machine, like a nazi war tank.'"
Why do you troll on every forum?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"its a boy or a man.'"
ok boy
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| Quote ="Pieman"ok boy'"
If you like them
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| If you deny a fire oxygen it burns out.
Children behave.....otherwise the parents have to step in.
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