Bloody hell if it is true then the guy should at least be given a chance, he has coached two poor teams with no hope of any silverware, we are a different proposition all together!

Time will tell on this one. Last year there was a rumour on here that Millward was joining our coaching staff but that never materialised. I'd rather have Agar than Millward to be fair.

If we do hear an announcement in the next few weeks that Agar is joining our staff then the OP is probably right. Once someone has been a head coach they don't usually step down to being an assistant without a reason.

I can see the scenario where TS has privately told the board he's leaving to go to the Dragons and they are hurriedly trying to get some form of succession in place. It is hard to find coaches as the market is barren. Hull are supposed to be an ambitious club with new ownership targeting trophies but they haven't been able to get a top coach in: they've had Gentle and Radford. Salford are another big ambitious club making big player signings but they are coached by Harris. If Smith leaves I would go all out to get Brian Noble in, but he might be content doing media work now. We shouldn't be surprised if we end up with an appointment that's not a big name in the game: even Saints a few years ago were getting Mick Potter and Royce Simmons who were not exactly superstars.

To get a top coach in takes time and the right moment when the right person is available. Simon Moran and the board will no doubt be looking all over the market the same way as they did players and sometimes you need a holding appointment, the 9 months or so of Jimmy Lowes was that, and Agar could come in for the same role: a holding appointment where if a year down the line a stand out coach was available, assuming we weren't ripping up trees in SL we could say thanks to Richard for his hard work since joining the club and agree to part by mutual consent.

Not necessarily.
Paul Cullen resigned because he was a proud Warringtonian. Brian Johnson and Daryl Van De Velde both resigned too because they also were too proud to take the money.

Whilst it seems unlikely, the astonishment of Wakey fans needs to be tempered. In Agar's time there he never had the chance to coach top-class players, so the team's performance is at least as much down to the playing staff as to the coach who was trying to make a silk purse etc etc. That doesn't automatically translate into Wire giving him a shot, though. If I were to look for a British coach, moreover, I'd take John Kear, assuming that Daryl Powell wants to make more of a mark at Cas before he moves on.

You believe that you'll believe anything

What a load of tosh. When he started we were top 8. He had player such as Amor, Aiton, Collis, Kirmond, Lautiti, Poore and an in form Tim Smith at his disposal just to name a few. Now you can fairly argue that team probably still wasn't good enough to win SL but one year later it finished 11th. Come on!

So cut the rubbish about top class players, quite the opposite if you'd bothered to look and not make assumptions.

Well if true or not it's certainly not an appointment to sell season tickets and I cannot for the life of me believe that Moran is unable to find someone with a better track record than Agar's.Be a huge step down imo if true which I sincerely hope it isn't.

Smith and Agar are very good friends with each other - which is how Riley ended up on loan there.

I am astonished that this thread has reached a 4th page. If anyone believes this then they'll believe anything.

Agar reveals his reasons for resigning at Wakefield: www.totalrl.com/richard-agar-lef ... -wakefield Quote “I told them a month ago I was going to look for a move at the end of the season and could I be released from the remaining two years of my deal. The club has found it hard to compete and as a coach that is frustrating. I understand what happened in the off-season [when financial issues caused several first-team players to leave and I am not afraid of that challenge at all. But the club need to decide what they want to be. Do they want to rebuild the team every year or two, or do they want some stability and to put more into it so they can compete? It was not a decision based on results, it was based on the fact the club is about to come into the recruitment period, I felt I have done my time here and I wanted to start looking for a new job. I am sorry we didn’t get a result [against Bradford on Sunday. I would have loved to go out with a 10-point buffer, but it was not to be. It was a tough decision because I have loved my time here, I have really enjoyed it and I have worked with some good people and got brilliant staff. But it was a personal decision. I want to compete and that is really hard here, but the club is getting better and it will be able to strengthen in the off-season. I am confident the club will stay up."'" It's interesting that Agar wanted to leave rather than being pushed, and the reasons were that he wants to "compete". Not wants to spend more time with his family away from the game etc. So he presumably is confident that he has got an opportunity lined up: it may be at Saints with Nathan Brown under pressure from their fans or it may be here with Smith going to the NRL. Reminds me a bit of the Tony Smith situation at Huddersfield in 2003: news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 103839.stm Quote "Of course I've mixed feelings about moving on but sometimes you just think the time is right. The club like many others is under huge restraints in terms of the salary cap that they are working under and I just felt that I'd like a crack at working at a higher level."'" Smith at the time officially had nothing lined up but Leeds soon announced that Smith would join their coaching set up as head coach with Daryl Powell stepping aside but then later to take over at the conclusion of Smith's contract (didn't happen as Powell went off to RU in the meantime). And then remember this situation at Harlequins in 2010: news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 921581.stm Quote Harlequins head coach Brian McDermott is to leave the club at the end of the season to rejoin Leeds Rhinos as assistant to Brian McClennan. The former Great Britain forward has spent four years in charge of the London club. McDermott said: "I've really enjoyed my four years at Harlequins but I feel now is time to hand over the reins. "I want to spend more time with my family, who live in Yorkshire, and this opportunity is very exciting." McDermott was previously assistant to former Leeds coach Tony Smith before he joined Harlequins in 2006, and will replace Francis Cummins and Willie Poching, who are leaving Headingley at the end of the season. He would also be a candidate to succeed McClennan if the New Zealander leaves at the end of his contract in 12 months' time.'"

Agar reveals his reasons for resigning at Wakefield: www.totalrl.com/richard-agar-lef ... -wakefield Quote “I told them a month ago I was going to look for a move at the end of the season and could I be released from the remaining two years of my deal. The club has found it hard to compete and as a coach that is frustrating. I understand what happened in the off-season [when financial issues caused several first-team players to leave and I am not afraid of that challenge at all. But the club need to decide what they want to be. Do they want to rebuild the team every year or two, or do they want some stability and to put more into it so they can compete? It was not a decision based on results, it was based on the fact the club is about to come into the recruitment period, I felt I have done my time here and I wanted to start looking for a new job. I am sorry we didn’t get a result [against Bradford on Sunday. I would have loved to go out with a 10-point buffer, but it was not to be. It was a tough decision because I have loved my time here, I have really enjoyed it and I have worked with some good people and got brilliant staff. But it was a personal decision. I want to compete and that is really hard here, but the club is getting better and it will be able to strengthen in the off-season. I am confident the club will stay up."'" It's interesting that Agar wanted to leave rather than being pushed, and the reasons were that he wants to "compete". Not wants to spend more time with his family away from the game etc. So he presumably is confident that he has got an opportunity lined up: it may be at Saints with Nathan Brown under pressure from their fans or it may be here with Smith going to the NRL. Reminds me a bit of the Tony Smith situation at Huddersfield in 2003: news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 103839.stm Quote "Of course I've mixed feelings about moving on but sometimes you just think the time is right. The club like many others is under huge restraints in terms of the salary cap that they are working under and I just felt that I'd like a crack at working at a higher level."'" Smith at the time officially had nothing lined up but Leeds soon announced that Smith would join their coaching set up as head coach with Daryl Powell stepping aside but then later to take over at the conclusion of Smith's contract (didn't happen as Powell went off to RU in the meantime). And then remember this situation at Harlequins in 2010: news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 921581.stm Quote Harlequins head coach Brian McDermott is to leave the club at the end of the season to rejoin Leeds Rhinos as assistant to Brian McClennan. The former Great Britain forward has spent four years in charge of the London club. McDermott said: "I've really enjoyed my four years at Harlequins but I feel now is time to hand over the reins. "I want to spend more time with my family, who live in Yorkshire, and this opportunity is very exciting." McDermott was previously assistant to former Leeds coach Tony Smith before he joined Harlequins in 2006, and will replace Francis Cummins and Willie Poching, who are leaving Headingley at the end of the season. He would also be a candidate to succeed McClennan if the New Zealander leaves at the end of his contract in 12 months' time.'"

The article i read ,i'm sure i didn't see any link with coming to Warrington.

That's because there isn't one.I can't believe that, once again, some people have actually fallen for this.

i don't think anyone has really.. have they?

From some of the posts, yes.

The 'wanting to compete' line seems to be a dig at Wakey, and implies they have no ambition or money. But surely he was 'competing' when he was at Hull ? Big club, decent budget presumably, but he didn't seem to make much of his opportunities over there.

He might be going to Catalans. He is coach of the French national team after all.

I wouldn't dismiss this: he might not come here but I think there's more to the Agar story that will soon be revealed.

It's rare these days that a coach resigns or asks to be released when he has a couple of years on his contract, as he won't get a payoff, whereas when a coach digs their heels in and refuses to resign the club have to pay them off when they leave. The phrase "I've never walked away from a challenge in my life" from a sports coach faced with questions about their future generally means "....when I am entitled to a payoff if I stay till I'm sacked."

So if he has gone voluntarily and foregone a payoff he must have something lined up and the comment about wanting to be somewhere where he can compete suggests he has got an opportunity he perceives as better.

I think we will see Agar turning up elsewhere in SL, whether its at Warrington or not we will have to wait and see.

I can only really see this rumour being true if agar is to act as an experienced assistant to a first time coach like Michael Monaghan or Adrian Morley!

IF of course sir tony is going to be on his way and I really hope he isn't. Easily the best coach we have had in my lifetime supporting the wire.

This has just been discussed on Super League Backchat, they said how Agar has been linked and rumoured for a while to be joining Wire. It was said that he would be on the coaching staff alongside Smith maybe with a view to taking over when/if Smith departs.

It was also obvious 3 of them at least have been reading this board! 3 nosey parkers.

i find it amusing how you wire fans brand us(hull fc) a poor team when Agar took over us, cast your minds back we had won a challenge cup 2005 and got to the grand final(2006) then Agar took over and we went backwards, back to w@nky me thinks. good luck

The difference was Paul Cooke he carried Hull.

Hull are a good lesson for us. If you move out good players / coaches and bring in ones that aren't at the same level then its not hard to predict what happens.

Hull were on the verge of something big and they started bringing in players like Calderwood, Thorman, Todd Byrne while guys were leaving like Blacklock, Swain, Brough, Carvell.

I bet there were Hull fans saying Kear or Peter Sharp had taken Hull as far as they can, but they regretted it afterwards, they didn't implode like Bradford but they went on a steady decline from trophy competitors to also rans (Carvell timed his move to us perfectly).

Are we moving in teh same direction or are we improving on our personnel to take us to the next level?

If we sign Agar as coach then we will drop off, I'm hearing a lot now and it's starting to worry we slightly.

Agar in charge is a huge backward step, would he be welcome...not by me.

Agar will do okay if the money is available. So would John Kear and I'd wind some up here but Paul Cullen now he's older and wiser could still do a job. He was perhaps a bit too close to some guys back then. I'm sure his age would draw a line this time.
I once said to him if Chris Bridge had of stayed fit he would still be at Warrington. A statement from me he said was interesting and he couldn't argue against.

Not tosh at all. You name seven players out of squad of what, twenty-five? Smith and Lauititi both well past their best even a few years ago, Collis solid but unspectacular, and the other five good but far from great. In any case, Agar did get you into the play-offs, right? I guess that he had nothing to do with that? I carry no torch for him but if you can't see that he was not managing a top-class squad then you're the one guilty of talking rubbish.