Waterhouse worked his socks off in defence all night he was knackered

For me the problem players tonight

Riley ...... terrible
Atkins --- went missing
Bridge .... went missing until 10 mins from end
ratchford Terrible
MMonas Is a Hooker nothing else and never should be anything else Smith should know better
Myler Lost no direction kicking shocking
Benny Saints snuffed him out

Riley.....always the scapegoat.

Thought O'Brien looked good at times.

Totally agree should have started utilising M Monas at dummy half as usual

for me Obrien needs to start next week however depends on Russel being fit to release Rathford into the halves

Questions must be asked of Tony Smith. Who in their right mind would pick MM at 6? Crazy.

He's mentioned 6 other players besides Riley so he's not really a scapegoat is he?Should have mentioned all the players as none of them stood out.

Bridge ?
Your joking right.
Bridge Hill Higham and Joel were the only players that I could give credit.

Can't believe nobody has mentioned Bentham's performance yet. Wire were appauling but the ref was shocking

He wasn't that bad and he didn't spoil the game. Wire did that.

I expected you lot to win, but you ended up being totally owned by Saints tonight.


Warrington are not a big club.

We will see Widnes will hand u your asses again this year like we did twice last year

Bring on the wire cant wait

So what did we learn in that match.

[i1. Mike Monaghan isn't a half back in the memory of man.[/i
Frankly everyone in the North(bar Tony Smith), South and East stand (and even a straw poll in the West) could tell you that.
'Hey Tony, 2008 just called, they said can they have their coaching manual back'

[i2. Big men don't necessarily make dominating forwards.[/i
Chris Hill close your eyes, you were fine but Riley for such a big guy doesn't ever look like pushing through the first hit up, Evans seems light weight and the only thing Waterhouse breaks, is a sweat.

[i3. Asotasi isn't a Morley, hell he isn't even a Carvell[/i
If someone sees him, could you point him out to me, i don't think he played yesterday.

[i4. Westwood isn't captain material[/i
At times he doesn't have enough brain power to keep himself in check, how does he become someone who i wouldn't trust to be responsible for just himself to being responsible for 16 other men?

[i5. Lee Briers has retired, can someone practice open play kicking in training[/i
That's just a depressing fact, Monaghan has the precision of a doctor using a JCB to do open heart surgery.
Ratchford, just keep him at lovin 6 for a season if you think he's our long term replacement, let him build up a relationship with Myler and stick Evans or Riley at 1 when Russell is missing.
Gaz O'Brien, stop wasting your time at Wire mate and put a transfer request, most of us want you here but i can't see you getting the time to develop here.
Myler, you do know it's not five a side football, if you kick a ball above head height you won't get penalised for it, there is another option not called a grubber.
Bridge, ignore this bit, just remember lad, feet are for running.

[i6. Mouths are useful tools, you can communicate and everything with them.[/i
Ryan meet Chris, Chris, this is Ryan you'll be playing on the same wing together...oh by the way you'll need to speak to each other, we find it helps in those positions.

You can't write Monaghan off after one game.....didn't we win the Challenge Cup with him at halfback at Wembley?



Now that Briers has gone Monaghan has the chance to step up

I hope that last nights game show Tony Smith that he has a lot to do, no leaders on the field, until GOB appear a poor kicking game, Asotasi was he out there last night, every thing was panic rugby with the only thoght to kick towards Joel M. Its painful but Stains deserved that win they wanted to play our lot were looking like "big time charlies" just expecting to win. Lets get players playing in there correct positions ie GOB in half back and Monas at Hooker for a start. Without the platform of recent years Myler will look very ordinary this year.

Well it is your cup final.

Can just imagine Betts saying [i"Lads, lads.....don't worry about making the playoffs or having a good run in the cup this year, could maybe even go so far as to don't worry if we get relegated........the single aim this season is to beat Warrington."[/i

I guess after reading these posts you don't think this is your year

What's that got to do with anything?

Nothing, he's just being a tool!

You St Helens fans are the biggest bores in Rugby League.

This always your year business; I'd say most Warrington fans are very pessimistic and love a bit of doom and gloom. God knows we've seen enough down the years. Boasting every season about being our year is not something I'd say we (including the management and players) do, although I'd admit some of the pundits say it from time to time.

When's the last time it was your year?

Always our year crap was because Stevo used to back us every year, don't blame us for that idiot, btw he backed Saints this year, yeah good luck with that.

"It's always your year"

Always thought this is a bit of a naff chant, and a bit rich given it usually comes from fans of 5 time grand final losers Saints.

That said, I don't think we will be threatening this unwanted record anytime soon.

We don't need to panic, everything at the club is still in place.

Surprised no-one has mentioned the absence of Grix, he was my player of the season last year after Higham.

If there was an award for this, it would always be Saints year.

I can think of much more appropriate words to use than "bores".

So could I. But they really are bores. The kind of people you'd avoid in a pub or at work.