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| Quote ="JWarriors"I do find it kind of unlikely that Parramatta could sign both.
There is still a salary cap to stay within. Hayne and Sandow take up a large chunk of it. Willie Tonga isn't cheap, and they have Will Hopoate coming in next year on (supposedly) $800,000, as well as Corey Norman from the Broncos, and reportedly Josh Papalii from the Raiders.'"
The salary cap is allegedly increasing by another $500k next year.
Looking at Parra's squad, I only see Hayne and Sandow as top dollar earners.
Beneath them, arguably, Mannah, Moi Moi and Tonga. Then Matua, Roberts and Larsick. After that, well, not that great.
I really can't see Hopoate commanding that kind of money, he is still pretty raw, even though he does look like he will be a fine player.
Papalli has reneged on his deal to Parra.
I think Parra have got plenty of scope on the cap.
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| Considering Tony Smith enthuses that it is the 'person' that is more important than the 'player' I really can't see how a person who had to change his name whilst younger due to the all the trouble he was in and then has gone on to be banned for drug taking would fit in with our alleged club ethos.
I for one would be pretty disgusted if he came to the club.
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| I cant see us Splashing the cash on two players for next year in the off season , i know we have in the past with Atkins and Myler, but Imo i think we'll pay a tidy fee to cas for Daryl Clark
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| Clark, Bateman, an established 6 and another signing please.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"[uIf you could iron out the dumb side of his game,[/u fantastic player, better than Waterhouse for me and this season better than Westwood, who has looked a little flat.'"
Many have tried, but all have failed I’m afraid…
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| I thought Gareth Hock was a reformed character following his ban. Didn't he spend the two years of his ban saving kittens from trees and helping old-ladies cross the road. That seemed to be the gist of it at the time his ban was ending and the "return of the prodigal son" extravaganza that Wigan publicised his return against Huddersfield as.
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| I've not seen anything to change my view that he's a liability, a penalty machine, a disruptive influence and a loose cannon. I wouldn't want him in the same town as Ben Currie let alone the same team.
Anyone who cites the good friday game against us can reflect that he was coming back from a ban - again. He's damaged goods and every opportunity the RFL get to make an example of him, they will.
As for his playing ability, lets see how we goes in the world cup when he gets targeted and is up against some real enforcers ............ assuming he's not banned, sulking, gone AWOL or bottled it.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"I've not seen anything to change my view that he's a liability, a penalty machine, a disruptive influence and a loose cannon. I wouldn't want him in the same town as Ben Currie let alone the same team.
Anyone who cites the good friday game against us can reflect that he was coming back from a ban - again. He's damaged goods and every opportunity the RFL get to make an example of him, they will.
As for his playing ability, lets see how we goes in the world cup when he gets targeted and is up against some real enforcers ............ assuming he's not banned, sulking, gone AWOL or bottled it.'"
This.
Anyone who advocates that we should try and sign him up is a simpleton, or at best misguided.
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| Typical rugby league fans they all crucify Gaz Hock but they'd all have him in their team, also he had his name changed because the other siblings in his family had the surname Hock.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"I thought Gareth Hock was a reformed character following his ban. Didn't he spend the two years of his ban saving kittens from trees and helping old-ladies cross the road. That seemed to be the gist of it at the time his ban was ending and the "return of the prodigal son" extravaganza that Wigan publicised his return against Huddersfield as.'"
You've forgotten warm summer meadows, rainbows & birds singing.
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| Quote ="Sunshine state"Typical rugby league fans they all crucify Gaz Hock but they'd all have him in their team, also he had his name changed because the other siblings in his family had the surname Hock.'"
Whilst I wouldn't have him in my team and it would appear that I'm not on my own, I too was surprised and disappointed to find more than a smattering on here that would sign him up given the chance.
Regarding his name change, how unusual is that having the same surname as a sibling? It's a good job my sister got married to avoid any surname 'confusion'
My advise, stay out of the sun for a while.
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| i love a good 'wrongun'.... get him signed.
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Whilst I wouldn't have him in my team and it would appear that I'm not on my own, I too was surprised and disappointed to find more than a smattering on here that would sign him up given the chance.
Regarding his name change, how unusual is that having the same surname as a sibling? It's a good job my sister got married to avoid any surname 'confusion'
My advise, stay out of the sun for a while.'"
C'mon, do you think we were all born yesterday ? Your sister was never called Uncle Rico !
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"C'mon, do you think we were all born yesterday ? Your sister was never called Uncle Rico !'"
Obviously not as my sister is a girl, she's was Auntie Rico but is now Auntie Everything
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"i love a good 'wrongun'.... get him signed.'"
I might agree if his indiscretions were for example just being too much of a tough guy at times and we could rely on TS to channel his enthusiasm in the right way to get the best out of him, but, they aren't
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| Quote ="Sunshine state"Typical rugby league fans they all crucify Gaz Hock but they'd all have him in their team, also he had his name changed because the other siblings in his family had the surname Hock.'"
Rubbish. He changed his name from Hancock to try and get a fresh start from his (ahem) chequered past.
As stated above, everything he has done and represents would make me disgusted if he was at our club. I bet Ben Harrison would love him here after he tried to gouge out his eye.
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| I'd rather we developed Ben Currie and signed Bateman. I think Hock can be a fantastic RL player. He's big powerful and actually has a bit of pace too. But he's too ill-disciplined to the point of being unreliable.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Rubbish. He changed his name from Hancock to try and get a fresh start from his (ahem) chequered past.
As stated above, everything he has done and represents would make me disgusted if he was at our club. I bet Ben Harrison would love him here after he tried to gouge out his eye.'"
I'm a believer in 'what happens in one game on the pitch should remain there; no hard feelings afterwards'. Dunno if Ben is the same but I'd like to think a lot of players are. People can do things in the spur of the moment and regret it afterwards, I don't think grudges should be held over individual incidents.
The only thing is with Hock, he's at it with opposition and officials in every game. And it can be damaging to a teams progression if a player is always say in the stand from being Sin-Binned Sent-Off or suspended. So it's a no from me.
Unless Tony wants him, then I'd stand by his decision as I trust Tony knows better than me for Wire's progression.
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| Quote ="Caveman"I'm a believer in 'what happens in one game on the pitch should remain there; no hard feelings afterwards'.'"
That's fair enough if it's a high tackle or a punch up but eye gouging is on a completely different level. Totally unforgivable.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Rubbish. He changed his name from Hancock to try and get a fresh start from his (ahem) chequered past.
As stated above, everything he has done and represents would make me disgusted if he was at our club. I bet Ben Harrison would love him here after he tried to gouge out his eye.'"
Harrison seems like a forgiving guy, considering a teammate did the dirty with his missus.
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| We all forgave Mathers, ironically it was Wigan that hated him.
I love Hock the rugby player playing within the rules but his attitude stinks, he's disruptive and worst of all thicker than McDonalds milkshake.
The last bit is actually the worst bit because that means he'll never learn, he'll always be a nob, if it could be taken out of him i'd have him in a heartbeat but i doubt it ever will so in dragon stylee, I'M OUT.
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| Quote ="Sunshine state"Typical rugby league fans they all crucify Gaz Hock but they'd all have him in their team, also he had his name changed because the other siblings in his family had the surname Hock.'"
and complete co-incidence that straight after this change that Wigan were able to sign the newly registered amateur player Gareth Hock. After checking his amateur background it didn't show that player was currently serving a ban that would have blocked his signing.
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| What's the weight limit on luggage? Mossop's medical files will weigh a ton.
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