"Oh... Wonka, Wonka.... Wonka, Wonka, Wonka, Wonka War-ring-ton"....

I don't know which one was correct as both work.

Yes I rthought it was atkins' poor passing first of all when you bombed three good chances but when I watched the replay it was riley over running it I thought.

I'm certainly at least as creative as our half-backs.

<that Star Trek photo with Picard and Ryker doing the double face-palm with suitable caption that I'd post if I knew where to find it or how to attach photos on these thread thingies anyway>

If we had capitalized on our chances the game could have been very different

But that's rugby and we must move on. win or loose I'm looking forward to a cracking game

and... [u=#FF0000IF[/u we do loose (which we won't because we're ded ace so there)

then I hope saints win the GF. (Yes shocking I know!

) As I can't really be doing with Wigan having yet again, something else to talk about. Or Leeds, as they finished 5th and shouldn't be allowed to get this far IMO.

Best of luck, hope you get beat

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Revenge is a desert best eaten cold.

Hard to find those cold deserts, as for eating one

I see from that summary you haven't actually read that thread, or you would know that's complete rubbish - even the opening thread said "if we get there", and the vast majority of Wire fans told them to stop being ridiculous and getting ahead of themselves. Maybe you would have a better idea of how our 'legions of graceless fans' behave if you actually paid attention to the real world for a while, instead of spouting ignorance and, after insulting them, claiming an insult in reply as proof.

moving on 'likes this' ^^^^^

Would that be a sandy 'desert', as in you're looking forward to eating our dust on Saturday?

Saints have the experience, they are at home and have quite a good record against us. It's been 4 years since they lifted a trophy and will be very hungry to taste success. On the flip side we have already won our annual trophy so may not be playing with as much desperation as Saints. I think if it's dry we will win and if it is wet then Saints will as they are more of a penalty, penalty, try type of team and we like to strike from anywhere on the field.

I've never seen it rain as hard as I saw it at Wembley a few weeks ago, and we won against the World Champions, so theory doesn't and up to the evidence I'm afraid.

As well as playing in the wet at Wembley, the most fluent, error-free and cohesive 40 minutes of rugby we’ve played this season came in the first half of the Leeds game at home where it hammered down throughout. We were 30-0 up inside half an hour, but then when the rain stopped approaching half time we started messing up and didn’t score a point for 40 minutes and almost let Leeds back into the game.

So we can play wet-weather rugby when we have to (at least we can against Leeds), but obviously, our game is more suited to dry conditions.

This is the key - we stop playing as recklessly when it rains, because that's suicidal. Perhaps what we need this weekend is rain, to keep the silly plays to a minimum, and give us more Saints mistakes to take advantage of. It was very dry a week last Saturday, and look how much good that did us.

Fair enough comment Jay, although playing 'catch up' rugby might just be harder in the rain especially when it becomes "reckless" and then "suicidal"?

We need to stop panicking whatever the weather and try and control the game like our last visit to Saints when we were top notch IMO

I do enjoy watching the creative rugby we play, which isn't clear from my earlier comment, but we do seem to be panicking more easily this season (especially in the playoffs) which is when it becomes reckless. You need to be calm and aware to correctly judge when an offload or a long pass is likely to work, while desperately trying to offload from every tackle will result in giving the ball away as often as not, and put you further behind than you were already.

Think we will just play same as Saturday, basic rugby nothing fancy, Westwood and Carvell would make that job even more easy.

Here's hoping on all fronts

Super Benny Westwood. Get us into the GF with his usual heart and determination and he may even pick up MoS along the way.

cultered, educated and endlessly sporting..describes your bully of a coach in the sporting manner he congratulated trent robinson over in france and how he praised alibert in the handling of your defeat to wakey...pots pans and kettles spring to mind