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| I seem to recall a similar thread about Carvell and he is now bang in form.
Rumours of his demise might be premature.
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| Wasn't there threads like this in 2007 after he got his cheekbone smashed, came back and had his cheekbone smashed again on his comeback. He was injury prone and past his best and everyone laughed at us for tying him on to a four year deal.
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| Quote ="mark_m"I seem to recall a similar thread about Carvell and he is now bang in form.
Rumours of his demise might be premature.'"
After the Saints game there were people shouting that Carvell and Wood were both finished. Gaz Carvell is now bang in form and woody really put his hand up in the Catalans Cup match. I'd reserve judgement for now. He certainly wasn't poor last night.
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| Maybe I was a little too blunt and some on here missed my point.
I like Adrian and he has been an outstanding player not only for us but all of his previous clubs. Unfortunately though father time is catching up with him and he is no longer the 'enforcer' he once was and the big hits have disappeared.
I dont want Adrian to be remembered for some 'un morley' like performances as he reaches the end of his career and would prefer him to retire gracefully and still in one piece healthwise.
There is no doubt that he could pro long his career either with us or elsewhere if he wanted too but as someone else on here mentioned... is he value for money?
For a club like us I think not, unless he was to take a significant pay cut. For a club like salford he maybe worth the money just to attract a crowd.
Im afraid Adrian is not the player he was 2-4 years ago just the same as Peacock at Leeds. Age gets to us all.
Thats all.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Wasn't there threads like this in 2007 after he got his cheekbone smashed, came back and had his cheekbone smashed again on his comeback. He was injury prone and past his best and everyone laughed at us for tying him on to a four year deal.'"
To be fair it use to be that idiot Cullens Pants who started those.
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| Morley hasn't broken a tackle in the last copule of season.As much as a outstanding player he was,i think it's time for him to move on. Let the young lads have a crack,Jack Cooper is back at Wire now.I would like to see him get some game time.
Maybe let Morley have a coaching role or be a ambassodor for the club.If not let him go to his boyhood club Salford.
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| Quote ="Bobby Digital"Morley hasn't broken a tackle in the last copule of season.As much as a outstanding player he was,i think it's time for him to move on. Let the young lads have a crack,Jack Cooper is back at Wire now.I would like to see him get some game time.
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What is the Jack Cooper "love-in" about? What has he ever done to suggest he's ready to play first team?
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"At the moment Morley, Solomona and Wood, probably Grix too. Why no Harrison?'"
No way would he be in front of Grix. Bet he's one of the first down.
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| He is declining, but most people do when you have been at the top for so long. He is 33 and lets look at this seriously he is in no way the worst prop in the league, look at peacock last night for example I didnt think he actually went forward at any point. Still got a lot to offer to the club in terms of experience!
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| Mixed reactions on this thread,but did anyone see Moz on the pitch after the final whistle???? I didnt...
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| Quote ="Wire4Life10"Mixed reactions on this thread,but did anyone see Moz on the pitch after the final whistle???? I didnt...'"
He was talking to fans next to me, taking photos with kids in other words doing his job as he always does. He's in need of some playing hours then he'll be the same hero he was last season. I hope he doesn't read some of the crap spouted on this site !
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| Why wouldn't I have Harrison as first choice ? Simple answer is Hill, Moz, Carvell, Woody, Sol,,Westwood ,Waterhouse , Grix are all better players IMO
Harrison and Cooper are the future but at this point IMO are back up players
At the end of the day TS is god and has the last word ! It was be interesting to know what his first choice pack would be Gary if ur reading ? Ask him please !
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| Dont get me started on TS...
The mard lol
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"An even bigger worry than the form (or lack of it) from the England captain is that there are 6 Leeds players in the squad, and none of them in great form. Sinfield was terrible last night. His lack of pace when he was on the right hand side of defence was badly exposed. The only man who looked in any real form was JJB. I didn't even realise that Bailey was playing until he refused to move back 10 yards for that last penalty.'"
If you take Rob Burrows out of that team and they have nothing! they are a one man team like people said we were when we didnt have Lee Briers playing!
Must be a bit of a worry for leeds fans!
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| Quote ="RuDeY"If you take Rob Burrows out of that team and they have nothing!'"
Ryan Hall is class, JJB isn't a bad player either, they have others.
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| Quote ="RuDeY"If you take Rob Burrows out of that team and they have nothing! they are a one man team like people said we were when we didnt have Lee Briers playing!
Must be a bit of a worry for leeds fans!'"
They will, they'll still have Rob Burrow.
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| Not the player he was physically, but still your pack leader, and a massive psychologial componant to the make up of your team. Its wrong to underestimate the presence people like Morley and Peacock have, dispite not being the players they once were. OK, people here will say that he is just as good as he was 10 years ago, but they would be wrong. If he was, he would still be down under. And that's not being disrespectful to you guys.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"What is the Jack Cooper "love-in" about? What has he ever done to suggest he's ready to play first team?'"
Well, he went to Australia earlier this year
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Not the player he was physically, but still your pack leader, and a massive psychologial componant to the make up of your team. Its wrong to underestimate the presence people like Morley and Peacock have, dispite not being the players they once were. OK, people here will say that he is just as good as he was 10 years ago, but they would be wrong. If he was, he would still be down under. And that's not being disrespectful to you guys.'"
Have to agree with you there.
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| For anybody who needs reminding the influence Morley has just needs to look back to last season, Wigan in the cup and he was rumoured to be back for the game after a couple of months out with his eye injury, 30 minutes before the game he came and stood in the tunnel on his own and gave a massive lift for the fans. He might not be our best prop but are we really in a position where we need him to be? the leadership he shows and whether hes in form or not you can guarantee players still fear Morley running at them , he is one of those players who can lift the side whether it be a big hit or a driving run. Also he is our captain for gods sake Morley on form is still one of the best props in Super League. As for Ben Harrison he is showing the form which got him selected for the England squad a couple of years ago after a quiet season last year, he would definitely be in the starting 17 interchanging 13 with Simon Grix , leaving Paul Wood and Mike Cooper not even in the team.. not a bad problem to have
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"OK, people here will say that he is just as good as he was 10 years ago, but they would be wrong. If he was, he would still be down under. And that's not being disrespectful to you guys.'"
If Sam Tomkins was that good he would have gone down under like Sibbit did when he went to Melbourne Storm.
The Aussies obviously don't rate Sam that good otherwise why would he be in England.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"If Sam Tomkins was that good he would have gone down under like Sibbit did when he went to Melbourne Storm.
The Aussies obviously don't rate Sam that good otherwise why would he be in England.'"
I don't think the RFU would be to happy if he went.After all he will be the main showcase case come the next union world cup.
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| Quote ="Bobby Digital"I don't think the RFU would be to happy if he went.After all he will be the main showcase case come the next union world cup.'"
He will become the "son we don't mention" to the Wigan fans like Chris Ashton.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"He will become the "son we don't mention" to the Wigan fans like Chris Ashton.'"
Like the black sheep of the family..
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| Looks like you have your own trolls to derail threads... ***rolls eyes***
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