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| Quote ="Rob Wire"But we've never had the luxury in the past of spending approx £200k to address the problem, for that sort of money you would expect the problem to be cured.'"
Have to agree......watching TS interview post match though, he doesnt seem to think briers being missing was an issue, but then again he isnt going to say we were clueless without him!!!
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| Quote ="Nikaed"Won 7 out of 8 without Briers last season'"
And what were the opposition ? Huddersfield are far stronger this year, we certainly didn't beat Saints, Wigan or Leeds last year without Briers.
Myler is fine when your teams on top where you don't need a creative 7, when were on top its usually either Monaghan or Briers thats running the show which allows Myler to concentrate do what he does best which is his support play.
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| Im liking the look of Scott Dureau, from all accounts he had Wigans pants down last night...
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| One bad game this season and apparently he's not good enough for us.
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| Quote ="matt king's cat"One bad game this season and apparently he's not good enough for us.'"
Exactly the same thing happened at MM, Briers went off injured and we had no idea. The game was crying out for myler to take control, never happened!! So not just once this year, and it will happen again im afraid.
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| In my opinion Richie is a support player ( and one of the best in the league ) in the mould of Shaun Edwards and I don't think he will ever control the game. I see him moving to stand off and us getting a quality scrum half to replace Briers.
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| Quote ="Fearnhead Cross"no he's a better player. The problem tonight is that the kicking from Myler, Hodgson & Monas was poor'"
Exactly.
Myler has developed a lot as a player, just because he's not leading the side around the pitch doesn't mean that he's a bad player. People seem to forget that he's only 20 years old and still developing now.
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| To be fair to Richie (who I think is a very good player for us and will in time become a great player for us) was playing behind a beaten pack.
Lee Briers could not have done much more on Friday we were beaten up front and had no platform to play off.
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| Quote ="LOngbarn Wire"Exactly the same thing happened at MM, Briers went off injured and we had no idea. The game was crying out for myler to take control, never happened!! So not just once this year, and it will happen again im afraid.'"
Can't take control behind a pack which continually drops the ball, misses tackles and gives away needless penalties. We were outplayed as we were in Cardiff. Neither loss could be blamed on a 20 year old.
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| As i stated in another thread, we were outplayed and out-enthused by Hudds, but questions do have to be asked about the mylers ability to organise the team going forward, take command. We had 7 different players kicking on the 5th tackle on friday, no idea what so ever, the game was creaming out for an organiser, Something that we lack when Briers is not playing.
Dont get me wrong, im not saying if Briers played we would of won, but i bet we would of had alot better structure when we got into try scoring postitions............
and your right, there were more than enough players out there that had stinkers, but this thread is about Myler...........
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| Quote ="Who are ya!!"Problem with Myler he isn't a leader he's a support player you need one of them your team so i don't mind, but when Briers goes we need to find a good leader/playmaker'"
Exactly different Kettle of fish with regards to comparing Myler and Briers. If you are expecting Myler to step into the same role and playing style as Briers then you will have a long wait. It was more up to the hooker and other half to share this role and let Myler continue playing the way he normaly does. To me he's another Danny Maguire don't expect him to supply more be supplied more like.
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| Quote ="Les Boyd"Not the same player we signed from Salford'"
he was decent enough when we had him. so blame the mancs.....i mean salford!
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| Been said a thousand times but still people seem to look at Myler as a ball playing / running half back. He is not and never will be a Sean Long, a Lee Briers, a Sam Tompkins or a Kyle Eastmond.
He's a Danny McGuire style player - backing up, excellent positional play, average kicking game, very fast, and already a good reader of the game - They are his key skills.
We lost out again against Huddersfields because they were far more up for it than we were and nothing to do with Mylers involvement (or lack of).
Just been a couple of bad weeks at the office for us. Rather this now than in the playoffs again. Wigan in a similar rut, but they will still be top come October.
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| Quote ="vikingsmurf"he was decent enough when we had him. so blame the mancs.....i mean salford!'"
I'd look decent playing at your teams level. Next.....
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| Nowt wrong with Richie, top player(i've been on Richie watch all season, not in the same way as 74' Tony watch)
Watch what he does without the ball and you see he's top drawer.
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| Quote ="Paul2812"I'd look decent playing at your teams level. Next.....'"
Drop a line to Denis Betts. I will be in the South Stand having a laugh when you turn out!
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| Quote ="Old Viking"Drop a line to Denis Betts. I will be in the South Stand having a laugh when you turn out!'"
you have implied by your reply that you agree he would be good enough for widnes!
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| Quote ="Yed™"Nowt wrong with Richie, top player(i've been on Richie watch all season, not in the same way as 74' Tony watch)
Watch what he does without the ball and you see he's top drawer.'"
Aye, too many fans hounding him.
Give the lad a chance, their were far poorer players out there on Friday night i.e. Clarke, Solomona etc.
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| I agree that Richard is the best support player in the league. However i dont think even if we had briers we would have won against huddersfield, we couldnt complete a set of six without knocking on. We didnt have much ball on their line because we couldnt get there
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| You could safely put a tenner on when your lot lose their is a Myler thread up within hours of the final whistle
The main point has got across though that he's not an organiser, however he does seem to be gradually growing more into that role I feel. For a 20 year old his rise has been mesmeric! Most lads would still be in the resrves yet he has 2 years of SL behind him and a few international caps to go with it.
I didn't see all of your match (unfortunately lol, I joke always a cracking game between yourslves & Hudds). However in a few flashes I saw he took the line a few times (Hodgon's 2nd try?) and looked a bit of a threat. As also said you need a big pack to be domiant and yours normally is plus it can't be easy to step into the leadership role when usually all the calls come from Monaghan / Briers.
I did feel he went lost in your MM game and went into hiding, however he seemed a different and more confident player in this one and is showing more signs of maturing. His support play is a 15-20 try a season bonus and in time he will grow into a more controlling half back, even if that takes a year or two longer that still leaves you with a top quality 21/22 year old with 10+ years ahead of him. Gutted you have him tbh but I think in the LONG RUN, money very well spent.
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| Why can't people understand that Myler is a completely different player to Briers? He can't simply replace Briers and play his game as his style is completely different. Have any of the knockers considered that Myler is playing the type of game (the opportunist) that Smith has told him to play?
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| Quote ="J20"=#FF0000You could safely put a tenner on when your lot lose their is a Myler thread up within hours of the final whistle
The main point has got across though that he's not an organiser, however he does seem to be gradually growing more into that role I feel. For a 20 year old his rise has been mesmeric! Most lads would still be in the resrves yet he has 2 years of SL behind him and a few international caps to go with it.
I didn't see all of your match (unfortunately
lol, I joke always a cracking game between yourslves & Hudds). However in a few flashes I saw he took the line a few times (Hodgon's 2nd try?) and looked a bit of a threat. As also said you need a big pack to be domiant and yours normally is plus it can't be easy to step into the leadership role when usually all the calls come from Monaghan / Briers.
I did feel he went lost in your MM game and went into hiding, however he seemed a different and more confident player in this one and is showing more signs of maturing. His support play is a 15-20 try a season bonus and in time he will grow into a more controlling half back, even if that takes a year or two longer that still leaves you with a top quality 21/22 year old with 10+ years ahead of him. Gutted you have him tbh but I think in the LONG RUN, money very well spent.'"
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| He's still only young and I can't believe some of you aren't happy with him.
He's one of the best young players in the country is bound to get better. I can only dream
of having a player of his quality in a Wakey shirt these days.
As has rightly been said he's a support player and one of the best, I also feel he's a bit of a confidence player too.
Get behind him and support him.
Ya lucky gets!
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| Quote ="wire78"So we've got threads On Myler and Clarke, yet not one word on the player who was the worst player on the pitch by a country mile .... Ben Harrison .... I'm never one to have a go at the players but it just gets on my nerves a little bit when the usual suspects are always slated on here , yet a performance like that from Harrison can go unmentioned ... The lad was shocking .'"
For me he's been poor (by his standards) all season.
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