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| Saints will be better off without him..His attitude smacks of a certain Iestyn Harris we had the misfortune of dealing with some years ago...
Its sad that a player so young is chasing money so early in his career...
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| Where is he going to play in RU? Back Rows will eat him for breakfast if he plays at scrum half. Centres in RU tend to play crash ball, so the only place that I can see him is on the wing. Give him 18 months and he'll be back.
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| Mate of mine is a big union fan, though he does enjoy league. He asked me about Eastmond the other day having never been aware of him, so I directed him to watch the match last night.
At half-time, he sent me a text saying something like "Wow, this lad's great, good hands, always involved, excellent workrate, blah blah".
Easily pleased these RU types, aren't they?
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Where is he going to play in RU? Back Rows will eat him for breakfast if he plays at scrum half. Centres in RU tend to play crash ball, so the only place that I can see him is on the wing. Give him 18 months and he'll be back.'"
Agreed. It looks like centre though - Bath are shipping Hape out to London Irish at the end of the season, which seems to leave a space for Eastmond.
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| If Jason Robinson made it I can't see why Eastmond couldn't play in the same position he did, whatever that position was.
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| If I was Gaskell or Gardner tonight I would have gone windmilling at the gobby little lover. It was a disgraceful way to treat your team mates after a mistake. I remember Brough doing it to Aaron Murphy at wakey just before he left.
You cannot do that as part of a team. From a Saints point of view he needs to go to enable you to get a bit of cohesion back.
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| Quote ="Deus Dat Incrementum"If I was Gaskell or Gardner tonight I would have gone windmilling at the gobby little lover. It was a disgraceful way to treat your team mates after a mistake. I remember Brough doing it to Aaron Murphy at wakey just before he left.
You cannot do that as part of a team. From a Saints point of view he needs to go to enable you to get a bit of cohesion back.'"
remember being impressed that Gardner didn't throw the ball at Eastmond; Longy style( Hull CC)
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| Quote ="Saddened!"If Jason Robinson made it I can't see why Eastmond couldn't play in the same position he did, whatever that position was.'"
Robinson had far more talent than Eastmond and had already 'made it' in RL. Eastmond has had one good half season followed by a series of injuries. Robinson's attitude was also very good, he was prepared to listen and learn. Eastmond's attitude is poor. I'm watching the game now and I've just watched his pass to Gaskell. Poor pass from Eastmond behind the player who can't control it. Eastmond just stands and watches, then blames Gaskell.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Robinson had far more talent than Eastmond and had already 'made it' in RL. Eastmond has had one good half season followed by a series of injuries. Robinson's attitude was also very good, he was prepared to listen and learn. Eastmond's attitude is poor. I'm watching the game now and I've just watched his pass to Gaskell. Poor pass from Eastmond behind the player who can't control it. Eastmond just stands and watches, then blames Gaskell.'"
Robinson didn't have more talent than Eastmond. Before Robinson went to Union he couldn't kick a ball and was just a pacy and elusive runner. Playing Union improved his game no end.
Eastmond has it all. He can kick, short and long. He can kick goals. He has pace and a running style very similar to Robinson's. He was brilliant at centre for Saints when Long was here, defensively solid and so dangerous in attack. He will go down well in Union I feel if he can stay away from the injuries, which is his only downfall. The mental side of things is hardly a problem unique to Kyle either. Many young players have had similar issues, Sean Long was one. Jason Robinson himself had major trouble in his teen years at Wigan with the demon booze and getting into trouble. He himself credits Inga Tuigamala with saving not only his career but probably his life through helping him find god and take a step back. Eastmond is just a young kid who knows he is talented and who has probably had people bigging him up all his career. His head will have been filled with wonderful things by Union and with the figures likely to be involved it's no wonder he's off. You have to factor in he's working under a coach who knew he was likely to be leaving the club and so by all accounts barely involved him in training. I think Leon Pryce's injury is the only reason Eastmond has been playing this season for Saints.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Where is he going to play in RU? Back Rows will eat him for breakfast if he plays at scrum half. Centres in RU tend to play crash ball, so the only place that I can see him is on the wing. Give him 18 months and he'll be back.'"
apparently Bath are looking at the wing or full back of which he is neither IMHO
but who would have him if there is no room for his salary in the League salary cap
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Robinson didn't have more talent than Eastmond. Before Robinson went to Union he couldn't kick a ball and was just a pacy and elusive runner. Playing Union improved his game no end.
Eastmond =#FF0000had it all. He =#FF0000used to kick, short and long. He can kick goals. He =#FF0000had pace and a running style very similar to Robinson's. He was brilliant at centre for Saints when Long was here, defensively solid and so dangerous in attack. He will go down well in Union I feel if he can stay away from the injuries, which is his only downfall. The mental side of things is hardly a problem unique to Kyle either. Many young players have had similar issues, Sean Long was one. Jason Robinson himself had major trouble in his teen years at Wigan with the demon booze and getting into trouble. He himself credits Inga Tuigamala with saving not only his career but probably his life through helping him find god and take a step back. Eastmond is just a young kid who knows he is talented and who has probably had people bigging him up all his career. His head will have been filled with wonderful things by Union and with the figures likely to be involved it's no wonder he's off. You have to factor in he's working under a coach who knew he was likely to be leaving the club and so by all accounts barely involved him in training. I think Leon Pryce's injury is the only reason Eastmond has been playing this season for Saints.'"
Edited for accuracy.
No offense intended.
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| If he wants to go then Saints need to let him asap.No good having a player,whos mind is not on the job. He will soon come crawling back,with his tail between his legs.When it all goes pear shaped.I can't see where he will play in the 15 man code.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I agree. Even with him I don't think we would have been knocking many trees down this year. If Graham goes there is a big rebuilding job to do before next season begins.'"
Is Royce the man to do rebuilding job.
Not a quip a genuine question.
IF Graham and Kyle leave as expected, then for the first time in many years there are more players in my team I would want than there are in your team. In fact the only player's in your team that I would really really want at the Wire is Roby, Pryce and Puletua (that's assuming Graham and Kyle leave). Roby I would break the bank for and I think Puletua is a great forward.
Wellens/ Hodgson = Hodgson
Gardner/ Monaghan = Monaghan
Shenton / Bridge = Bridge
Wheeler ? / Atkins = Atkins
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Perry / Morley = Morley
Roby / Monaghan = Monas (but I think Roby is a wonderful player and as stated earlier would break the bank for him)
Graham / Cravell = Graham
Wilkin / Westwood = Westwood
Puletua / Louis = Puletua
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| Bloody hell Fatbelly imagine having a Monaghan/Roby interchange.
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| Quote ="Yed"Bloody hell Fatbelly imagine having a Monaghan/Roby interchange.'"
We would dominate, in fact we would probably overtake the US and become the worlds leading superpower.
To have Roby and Monas in our team would be world beating .
Please Mr Moran any chance of a very large cheque being written.
I know this has almost no chance of happening.......but Saints have a new stadium to pay for and everything that entails. Its not just building the stadium its kitting it out with everything that it will need. Roby has just this past month signed a long term contract and Saints would be able to ask a massive (probably world record) fee for him. Saints are in the rebuilding phase and we are in the ascendancy. Roby would have a choice between helping rebuild a team with promise of Trophies to come one day, or have his cake and eat it and play in a settled team with a massive salary (Ahem one way or the other) and win trophies now.
Cunningham, Long, Graham, Eastmund, Pryce et al have all left or will probably leave and this will lessen James reasons to stay with Saints.
The following has been said a couple of times in recent seasons but in a different context, 'there has never been a better time' for Mr Moran to have a quite word with Roby's agent.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Robinson didn't have more talent than Eastmond. Before Robinson went to Union he couldn't kick a ball and was just a pacy and elusive runner. Playing Union improved his game no end.
Eastmond has it all. He can kick, short and long. He can kick goals. He has pace and a running style very similar to Robinson's. He was brilliant at centre for Saints when Long was here, defensively solid and so dangerous in attack. He will go down well in Union I feel if he can stay away from the injuries, which is his only downfall. The mental side of things is hardly a problem unique to Kyle either. Many young players have had similar issues, Sean Long was one. Jason Robinson himself had major trouble in his teen years at Wigan with the demon booze and getting into trouble. He himself credits Inga Tuigamala with saving not only his career but probably his life through helping him find god and take a step back. Eastmond is just a young kid who knows he is talented and who has probably had people bigging him up all his career. His head will have been filled with wonderful things by Union and with the figures likely to be involved it's no wonder he's off. You have to factor in he's working under a coach who knew he was likely to be leaving the club and so by all accounts barely involved him in training. I think Leon Pryce's injury is the only reason Eastmond has been playing this season for Saints.'"
You're obviously an Eastmond fan. He can't do everything. If Friday was anything to go by, he proved that his kicking game is lacking and some of his passing leaved a lot to be desired. He's also extremely petulent and won't get far in Union with an attitude like that. Robinson had also achieved an awful lot in RL went he went, whereas Eastmond has had one good six month period, followed by a period of under-achievement and injury.
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| That would be nice, when Matt King goes end of year instead of replacing his salary with another antip, get in JR
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| Sorry remind me why wire are in the ascendancy?
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"Is Royce the man to do rebuilding job.
Not a quip a genuine question.
IF Graham and Kyle leave as expected, then for the first time in many years there are more players in my team I would want than there are in your team. In fact the only player's in your team that I would really really want at the Wire is Roby, Pryce and Puletua (that's assuming Graham and Kyle leave). Roby I would break the bank for and I think Puletua is a great forward.
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as nothing will be decided this year. I will see how Myler develops. Pryce is older and slower. The only thing he has over myler is kicking and leadership. I wanna see if myler can develop
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| Quote ="jdrocket"The only thing he has over myler is kicking and leadership. '"
He is also crafty and creative. We miss him big time and I wish he'd get his groin in order asap!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"He is also crafty and creative. We miss him big time and I wish he'd get his groin in order asap!'"
Yes, we have monas for that though
but seriosulty, I don't wanna belittle the impact and input that Pryce has/puts into a game. He really is great. If we didn't have Briers and Myler$$$ i'd welcome him to wire.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"We would dominate, in fact we would probably overtake the US and become the worlds leading superpower.
To have Roby and Monas in our team would be world beating .
Please Mr Moran any chance of a very large cheque being written.
I know this has almost no chance of happening......but Saints have a new stadium to pay for and everything that entails. Its not just building the stadium its kitting it out with everything that it will need. Roby has just this past month signed a long term contract and Saints would be able to ask a massive (probably world record) fee for him. Saints are in the rebuilding phase and we are in the ascendancy. Roby would have a choice between helping rebuild a team with promise of Trophies to come one day, or have his cake and eat it and play in a settled team with a massive salary (Ahem one way or the other) and win trophies now.
Cunningham, Long, Graham, Eastmund, Pryce et al have all left or will probably leave and this will lessen James reasons to stay with Saints.
The following has been said a couple of times in recent seasons but in a different context, 'there has never been a better time' for Mr Moran to have a quite word with Roby's agent.'"
Saints' monies for their new stadium have been generated from the sale of KR. The move will make their cash flow infinitely better, as I would wager the cost of maintaining KR would have been crippling.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Saints' monies for their new stadium have been generated from the sale of KR. The move will make their cash flow infinitely better, as I would wager the cost of maintaining KR would have been crippling.'"
You're probaly right. I'm almost certain that back in the day, at the Parr Hall meeting re: the HJ, Peter Deakin made much the same comments - We could not generate revenue at Wilderspool because of poor facilities and at the same time the cost of keeping the place safe for use was exorbitant.
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| Quote ="Paul Thexton"You're probaly right. I'm almost certain that back in the day, at the Parr Hall meeting re: the HJ, Peter Deakin made much the same comments - We could not generate revenue at Wilderspool because of poor facilities and at the same time the cost of keeping the place safe for use was exorbitant.'"
it was agreat ground though!
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