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| Quote ="Wire_74"Great night Roy, enjoyed it alot, very informative.
Was good to hear John Bastian and I was delighted with his comments that we are 'ahead of Leeds' with our youth development.'"
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Hope so given alot of Leeds fans have said there youth set up is awful at the moment.'"
derrrr,,, when he was there, he is the man responsible for the current 1st teamers playin now, mcguire,burrow etc etc, you know the ones who have won the gf for the past 3 years!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Hope so given alot of Leeds fans have said there youth set up is awful at the moment.'"
Christ.
Must be awful for Bastian to produce the likes of McGuire, Burrow, Hall etc. |
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Christ.
Must be awful for Bastian to produce the likes of McGuire, Burrow, Hall etc.'"
So he said we have players better then them coming through? great stuff. |
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| Quote ="Wire_85"So he said we have players better then them coming through? great stuff.'"
he said we are way ahead of leeds at this moment than when he was at leeds, 8 years ago and started the production line off. first time ive met and heard him speak, he is a very intelligent and clever man and you can see why che holds him in high regard. |
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Wasn't Stuart Wilkinson the Head of Youth at Leeds when all the current 1st team players were coming through?
John worked under Stuart and took over when Stuart left for Wigan.
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Kevin Sinfield debut 1997 v Sheffield Eagles
Rob Burrow debut 2001 v Hull
Danny McGuire debut 2001 v Salford
These are hardly the products of Johns time at Leeds, I think people should do a bit of research before giving someone credit for another persons work.
John was coaching Leeds under 16's in 2005 and their under 18's in 2006 before taking over from Mr Wilkinson. I could be wrong but I don't think John will have coached the above players at all during his time there.
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johny is a wire
johny is a wire
and that will do for me + and he doing a grand job.
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pat on the back for twinkle toes Jimmy lowes for bringing John to the club
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Nice...
A well researched, intelligent and thought through response.
The point wasn't whether John was doing a good job there, it was with him being labelled as being "the mastermind" behind the Leeds youth system and according to the Wire fans the main reason Leeds have won the last 3 GF's.
Try spending half an hour in the company of John Bastian and Stuart Wilkinson and then say who is the most intelligent.
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| Quote ="el red"Nice...
A well researched, intelligent and thought through response.
The point wasn't whether John was doing a good job there, it was with him being labelled as being "the mastermind" behind the Leeds youth system and according to the Wire fans the main reason Leeds have won the last 3 GF's.
Try spending half an hour in the company of John Bastian and Stuart Wilkinson and then say who is the most intelligent.'"
John Bastian claimed to be the person responsible behind the producion of the above mentioned players.
Secondly, you must be one of the most intelligent people to grace this planet to determione someone's IQ after thirty minutes of conversation. |
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Thanks for that, I knew the PhD would be worth it in the end lol...
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"John Bastian claimed to be the person responsible behind the producion of the above mentioned players.
Secondly, you must be one of the most intelligent people to grace this planet to determione someone's IQ after thirty minutes of conversation.'"
That should read 'never claimed' a typo on my part. |
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....and theres me reading this Topic expecting to have some sort of narrative on the events of last night, like, what did Hicksy say, what did Clarkey say, was he surprised that when he came out on Sunday he was cheered, and not the usual boo's (which I think have tongues firmly in cheek by the way...).
But no, it has deteriorated into the usual inane slagging off of posters, I knew there was a reason I haven't bothered here for a while.
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Good night last night with a great top table of guests who all contributed well: John Bastian, Ryan Shaw, Gareth O'Brien, Rhys Evans, Jon Clarke, Ben Evans, Chris Hicks. Interesting to hear their answers to a range of topics and a few good laughs too.
The Q&A was followed by the AGM which included a summary of the events of the Trust over the past year and of the accounts, detailing the income raised and where money has been spent via Squadbuilder on helping youth development via team sponsorship, kit and equipment purchases, training and team-building events etc at all levels from u12s through to u20s.
Slight negative was that it was another poor turnout - STILL don't understand why these sorts of events aren't more attractive to fans. Everyone who does go seems to enjoy them. Why don't more turn up?
I only ask because it would be great if we could increase the number of members we have in Squadbuilder and/or the Trust. This would have several benefits. We could raise more money to support the youth development in more great ways than we already are. We could act as more of a representative voice and ears between the club and the fanbase. Thinking wider, we had Laura Harrison from [url=http://www.supporters-direct.org/Supporters Direct[/url (the umbrella organisation of all Trusts) and she talked about how the more RL Trusts there are and the more members each one has, the more weight SD has when it does things like talking to Government about support for the Sport.
If anyone has any (geniune) points or queries they want to raise, feel free. Either here, or via one of the Trust Board members. Check out the website too for more info:
www.squadbuilder.co.uk/ |
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Good night last night with a great top table of guests who all contributed well: John Bastian, Ryan Shaw, Gareth O'Brien, Rhys Evans, Jon Clarke, Ben Evans, Chris Hicks. Interesting to hear their answers to a range of topics and a few good laughs too.
The Q&A was followed by the AGM which included a summary of the events of the Trust over the past year and of the accounts, detailing the income raised and where money has been spent via Squadbuilder on helping youth development via team sponsorship, kit and equipment purchases, training and team-building events etc at all levels from u12s through to u20s.
Slight negative was that it was another poor turnout - STILL don't understand why these sorts of events aren't more attractive to fans. Everyone who does go seems to enjoy them. Why don't more turn up?
I only ask because it would be great if we could increase the number of members we have in Squadbuilder and/or the Trust. This would have several benefits. We could raise more money to support the youth development in more great ways than we already are. We could act as more of a representative voice and ears between the club and the fanbase. Thinking wider, we had Laura Harrison from [url=http://www.supporters-direct.org/Supporters Direct[/url (the umbrella organisation of all Trusts) and she talked about how the more RL Trusts there are and the more members each one has, the more weight SD has when it does things like talking to Government about support for the Sport.
If anyone has any (geniune) points or queries they want to raise, feel free. Either here, or via one of the Trust Board members. Check out the website too for more info:
www.squadbuilder.co.uk/ | |
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How about leaflets handed out at home games with info about Squadbuilder?
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Christ.
Must be awful for Bastian to produce the likes of McGuire, Burrow, Hall etc.'"
Bastian had nothing to do with the real 'stars' of the Leeds youth, Burrow Mcguire, Mathers, JJB, and Bailey.
The vast majority of the great youngsters that have come through the Leeds system were nurtured by Dean Bell who set Leeds' youth structure up, and, IMO, it's no coincidence that Wigan's youth structure turned out top class players after Dean Bell joined them after Leeds.
No dis-respect to what John Bastian has been doing at Leeds, but he's not been as succesful as most people think |
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Glad someone agrees with me.
For the record, the Wolves Squadbuilder is a fantastic initiative and should be supported by everyone as should the other similar schemes at other clubs. The people behind the scenes at Wire do a great job and have done for a great many years, and for a fraction of John Bastians £60k salary (couldn't help the last dig, sorry).
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| Quote ="el red"Glad someone agrees with me.
For the record, the Wolves Squadbuilder is a fantastic initiative and should be supported by everyone as should the other similar schemes at other clubs. The people behind the scenes at Wire do a great job and have done for a great many years, and for a fraction of John Bastians £60k salary (couldn't help the last dig, sorry).'"
They haven't agreed with you, quite the opposite. You clearly state it was Stuart Wilkinson who yielded Sinfield, Burrow and McGuire, not Dean Bell.
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Quote ="SEB"Good night last night with a great top table of guests who all contributed well: John Bastian, Ryan Shaw, Gareth O'Brien, Rhys Evans, Jon Clarke, Ben Evans, Chris Hicks. Interesting to hear their answers to a range of topics and a few good laughs too.
The Q&A was followed by the AGM which included a summary of the events of the Trust over the past year and of the accounts, detailing the income raised and where money has been spent via Squadbuilder on helping youth development via team sponsorship, kit and equipment purchases, training and team-building events etc at all levels from u12s through to u20s.
Slight negative was that it was another poor turnout - STILL don't understand why these sorts of events aren't more attractive to fans. Everyone who does go seems to enjoy them. Why don't more turn up?
I only ask because it would be great if we could increase the number of members we have in Squadbuilder and/or the Trust. This would have several benefits. We could raise more money to support the youth development in more great ways than we already are. We could act as more of a representative voice and ears between the club and the fanbase. Thinking wider, we had Laura Harrison from [url=http://www.supporters-direct.org/Supporters Direct[/url (the umbrella organisation of all Trusts) and she talked about how the more RL Trusts there are and the more members each one has, the more weight SD has when it does things like talking to Government about support for the Sport.
If anyone has any (geniune) points or queries they want to raise, feel free. Either here, or via one of the Trust Board members. Check out the website too for more info:
www.squadbuilder.co.uk/'"
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The Q&A was followed by the AGM which included a summary of the events of the Trust over the past year and of the accounts, detailing the income raised and where money has been spent via Squadbuilder on helping youth development via team sponsorship, kit and equipment purchases, training and team-building events etc at all levels from u12s through to u20s.
Slight negative was that it was another poor turnout - STILL don't understand why these sorts of events aren't more attractive to fans. Everyone who does go seems to enjoy them. Why don't more turn up?
I only ask because it would be great if we could increase the number of members we have in Squadbuilder and/or the Trust. This would have several benefits. We could raise more money to support the youth development in more great ways than we already are. We could act as more of a representative voice and ears between the club and the fanbase. Thinking wider, we had Laura Harrison from [url=http://www.supporters-direct.org/Supporters Direct[/url (the umbrella organisation of all Trusts) and she talked about how the more RL Trusts there are and the more members each one has, the more weight SD has when it does things like talking to Government about support for the Sport.
If anyone has any (geniune) points or queries they want to raise, feel free. Either here, or via one of the Trust Board members. Check out the website too for more info:
www.squadbuilder.co.uk/'"
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| Quote ="Wires71"Good post. How are the ST evenings advertised other than on here?'"
Pretty sure it has been referred to in the Warrington Guardian (they certainly have in the past), certainly this one via League Express, stadium concourses, club shop and club website. I think there were tannoy announcements at half-time on Sunday. Short of following Wigan and doing an advert before The Bill I don't know what more people could do.
I wonder whether a back page advert on the Guardian might pay off?
Whenever people attend these evenings they are nigh-on always glowing in their feedback yet get people out of their arm-chairs to attend is a thankless task. |
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| Quote ="Wires71"Good post. How are the ST evenings advertised other than on here?'"
[urlhttp://www.warringtonwolves.org/fans-forum-3549[/url
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[urlhttp://www.facebook.com/home.php?tab=4#!/event.php?eid=108725875844274&ref=mf[/url
The last two programmes (Leeds and Castleford)
By email to everyone on Squadbuilder email list
if you are not on our list and would like to be included pm me with your details
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Pretty sure it has been referred to in the Warrington Guardian (they certainly have in the past), certainly this one via League Express, stadium concourses, club shop and club website. I think there were tannoy announcements at half-time on Sunday. Short of following Wigan and doing an advert before The Bill I don't know what more people could do.
I wonder whether a back page advert on the Guardian might pay off?
Whenever people attend these evenings they are nigh-on always glowing in their feedback yet get people out of their arm-chairs to attend is a thankless task.'"
That's pretty comprehensive marketing Sean (I wasn't making a dig by the way). I don't recall I have seen anything in the concourse nor in the shop (but I go to the shop only once pcm). I did see a "Don't mickey the future way" poster in the Gents at Wilderspool. I think the Guardian idea has merit and it could work as part of a FOC "infomercial" i.e) a nice, interesting, inside piece about the outcomes from the event (editorial) together with dates for the forthcoming (advert).
I must admit I'm a member of both ST and SqB and haven't been to any event (since 2002) which I know is my loss and reflects poorly on me. I always think of a reason not to go. It maybe because I am shy and think that those who do are sort of uber-fans. However I think it would be nice to receive an email with the outcomes following the event (i.e. financials, key announcements, developments, strategy, vision, photos, AGM stuff etc) and that may whet my appetite enough for me to get off my backside and attend.
I'm speculating now - Maybe the marketing is fine and broad, and it's just the way the offering is presented that doesn't make it compelling? Or maybe as you say we are a lethargic lot.
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Cheers Roy - please see my reply to Paul, especially about post event communications. Anyway well done. |
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