Don't get too hung up on Mathers. He is merely a short term custodian of the fullback role.

Funny you should say that....my girlfriend sometimes takes the dog to 'Greensheilds glorious grooming emporium' and ..

I think i may have said to much already....

Well he has 25 Test caps, a Super League Grand Final winner ring and a Challenge Cup winners medal so for someone reasonably talented, he's done alright.

He's very talented but will no doubt look back on his career and know that he should have won a lot more than he did. Saints wouldn't have got rid of him if he behaved himself and he'd have a lot more medals if he stayed there.

From a Warrington point of view I'm also in the "happy when we signed him and happy when we got rid of him" camp so I've got no lingering feelings towards him either way. He didn't want to play for us, he moved on, and we've already been infinitely more successful in terms of silverware since he left than we were when he was with us. Long may that continue but it's got nothing to do with Martin Gleeson.

What about when Myler left Widnes?

These guys are pro sportsmen and talking about 'Judas' is puerile. They each have ten/twelve years to maximise their earnings and on-field success, so should never be attacked for moving clubs.

100k was the reported figure and everybody got what they wanted out of the deal.

Happy days.