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| My guess would be that it was a split screen where the left hand side of the screen was a static image then when the numbers were being drawn an assistant wrote the numbers on the balls which nobody would see, when the draw had finished they replaced the left hand side static picture with live pictures.
If you watch it again, Derren Brown never moves from the right hand side of the screen until after the draw, if he had done he would have probably dissapeared.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"My guess would be that it was a split screen where the left hand side of the screen was a static image then when the numbers were being drawn an assistant wrote the numbers on the balls which nobody would see, when the draw had finished they replaced the left hand side static picture with live pictures.
If you watch it again, Derren Brown never moves from the right hand side of the screen until after the draw, if he had done he would have probably dissapeared.'"
i think this too.. noticed that he never moved but the camera seemed to twitch a few times
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| I thought he was a class player, he had a great kicking and passing game for a second row, he filled in at 6 time and time again for Salford as well.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"My guess would be that it was a split screen where the left hand side of the screen was a static image then when the numbers were being drawn an assistant wrote the numbers on the balls which nobody would see, when the draw had finished they replaced the left hand side static picture with live pictures.
If you watch it again, Derren Brown never moves from the right hand side of the screen until after the draw, if he had done he would have probably dissapeared.'"
what about maybe the numbers being projected onto the balls after they are known?
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| the guy must be loaded...but if he can predict the lotto numbers why does`nthe wait till theres a treble rollover..get someone in his family to put the thing on and jobs a good un...retire...
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| Quote ="RyanWire"what about maybe the numbers being projected onto the balls after they are known?'"
He said he had spent the past 12 months of his life trying to figure out a way to do it though so I doubt it's as simple as projecting numbers onto balls. Also can't see channel 4 giving 1hr of their time up on a friday night to explain how they managed to beam some numbers onto a couple of balls
Will be interesting to see how he did actually do it.
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| Quote ="W.F"He said he had spent the past 12 months of his life trying to figure out a way to do it though so I doubt it's as simple as projecting numbers onto balls. Also can't see channel 4 giving 1hr of their time up on a friday night to explain how they managed to beam some numbers onto a couple of balls
Will be interesting to see how he did actually do it.'"
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| Quote ="W.F"He said he had spent the past 12 months of his life trying to figure out a way to do it though so I doubt it's as simple as projecting numbers onto balls. Also can't see channel 4 giving 1hr of their time up on a friday night to explain how they managed to beam some numbers onto a couple of balls
Will be interesting to see how he did actually do it.'"
They Showed 'on tour with the Queen' which was a weekly series
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| Quote ="The Jigga Jigga"They Showed 'on tour with the Queen' which was a weekly series'"
I dont remember that one haha mustve been worse than the derron brown thing haha
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| Quote ="Cubby"I thought he was a class player, he had a great kicking and passing game for a second row, he filled in at 6 time and time again for Salford as well.'"
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| Quote ="RyanWire"what about maybe the numbers being projected onto the balls after they are known?'" Nope, like Rob said, it was a split screen, personally thought it was a load of crap, by far the worst one he has done.
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| Quote ="W.F"He said he had spent the past 12 months of his life trying to figure out a way to do it though so I doubt it's as simple as projecting numbers onto balls. Also can't see channel 4 giving 1hr of their time up on a friday night to explain how they managed to beam some numbers onto a couple of balls
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I think that quote was a part of the act.
I also cant see channel 4 giving up an hour to say it was a split screen either It will be incredibly simple, it always is.
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| It's all to do with the amount of times certain balls have and haven't been drawn and the laws of probability that dictate which should be drawn. He's probably got a team who have done research on every single lottery draw and then worked out patterns and such-like and they have come up with 5 numbers that should be drawn in accordance with the laws of probability.
Or, so I've been told.
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"It's all to do with the amount of times certain balls have and haven't been drawn and the laws of probability that dictate which should be drawn. He's probably got a team who have done research on every single lottery draw and then worked out patterns and such-like and they have come up with 5 numbers that should be drawn in accordance with the laws of probability.
Or, so I've been told.'"
lol no way, the odds don't change on what numbers could come out, it's just 49/1 per ball and that's it
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| Derren Brown to predict Wire for 2010 GF win......
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| Didn't anyone hear Judith Kepel's mate coughing after every ball???
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| I just can't see Derren using Camera tricks. It's not his style.
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| it's probability and maths, as rugbychick says, he's a ridiculously intelligent bloke and if you've read any of his books you can pick up on the logic and huge effort that takes place in some of his work.
Rather than people accusing him of being a fraud, i'd be more inclined to be suggest the lottery is fixed.
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"it's probability and maths, as rugbychick says, he's a ridiculously intelligent bloke and if you've read any of his books you can pick up on the logic and huge effort that takes place in some of his work.
Rather than people accusing him of being a fraud, i'd be more inclined to be suggest the lottery is fixed.'"
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| Quote ="Chris McKean"I just can't see Derren using Camera tricks. It's not his style.'" I agree Chris. If he has used split screens, then any of us could have done this with the right equipment.
Also, it was the obvious guess.
Derren Brown doesn't do things that others can do, or guess very easily.
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| I can't see it being probability and maths Catsmith. I'm sure there are better mathematicians out there who would have clocked onto this a long time ago if it were actually possible to predict the lottery numbers.
Saying you can predict the lottery numbers is like saying you can predict what number a roulette wheel will land on. Every ball has exactly the same chance of coming out as the next.
It's going to be a trick but I'm not sure what.
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| What time is he on so I can avoid the show?
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| Quote ="Chris McKean"I can't see it being probability and maths Catsmith. I'm sure there are better mathematicians out there who would have clocked onto this a long time ago if it were actually possible to predict the lottery numbers.
Saying you can predict the lottery numbers is like saying you can predict what number a roulette wheel will land on. Every ball has exactly the same chance of coming out as the next.
It's going to be a trick but I'm not sure what.'"
Indeed, Stephen Hawking would be the richest man in the world by now, if this rationale was correct.
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"it's probability and maths, as rugbychick says, he's a ridiculously intelligent bloke and if you've read any of his books you can pick up on the logic and huge effort that takes place in some of his work.'"
Its still a trick which ever way you look at it, ask yourself why he didn`t reveal his numbers to the nation 5 mins before the draw was made ? They close the lottery terminals at 7-30pm i think so nobody could have copied his numbers ife he had revealed them before hand, by waiting until after the draw was finished before he revealed his numbers then its a trick/illusion of some sort where you needed to know the result before hand.
If you were that good and could pick the lottery numbers then what would you choose, a £20k ish fee for doing a tv show or putting the numbers on yourself and standing to win a possible windfall of over £4 million.
Its an illusion just like his horse racing scam was which was one of the oldest tricks in the book used by numerous telephone tipsters.
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