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| I'm missing something with Monas tbh.
He threw 1 pass that went to them (although we got a penalty as he was offside), he also turned the ball over with a schoolboy error of just throwing the ball when he was getting tackled. He also missed a shocker of a tackle for one of their tries.
For me he was very poor, and I am stunned he is being considered as better than Briers, Westwood or Carvell who were three or four levels above everybody else on the field IMHO.
Monas did a couple of nice things when we were completely on top, but there is always a bad mistake just round the corner with him.
I am getting more and more impressed with King, and he now looks like the most dangerous player on the field for us when he gets the ball. The problem is we don;t have a left sided half to feed him the ball.
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| I thought Mike Cooper did everything that was needed today. Didn't try to win the game with every play, did the basics well and kept going making an impact, especially considering the length of time he was kept on.
With Wood's injury Cooper has the opportunity to stake a claim for replacing Rauhihi in our first choice four props for next season.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"I thought Mike Cooper did everything that was needed today. Didn't try to win the game with every play, did the basics well and kept going making an impact, especially considering the length of time he was kept on.
With Wood's injury Cooper has ther opportunity to stake a claim for replacing Rauhihi in our first choice four props for next season.'"
Definitely.
I was willing him to score today, he deserverd a try.
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| Quote ="Fearnhead Cross"For me it was Monas. Seemed to be the only player trying in the first half & played a full 80 mins @ hooker - tremendous!'"
And what about some of the mistakes he made?
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"I thought Mike Cooper did everything that was needed today. Didn't try to win the game with every play, did the basics well and kept going making an impact, especially considering the length of time he was kept on.
With Wood's injury Cooper has the opportunity to stake a claim for replacing Rauhihi in our first choice four props for next season.'"
He was excellent again.
What's great with him is what you allude to, he plays within his limitations, plays to his strengths, only knows one way forwards and just makes tough metres with every carry.
His improvement this year has been tremendous to see. [size=75(Unless you're Steve Pickersgill)[/size
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Monaghan for me, Briers had an absolute shocking 1st half in all departments, Westwood was a solid performer and Carvell must be given credit for the amount of game time he endured.'"
Apart from his try of course.
Would you agree with me that Briers was outstanding in the 2nd half?
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| Quote ="the ditch"Shock...
can i just say that im so glad that chris bridge has nearly come through a full season without serious injury.
Not made of biscuit at all is he like all them posters last year made out...well in chris..'" not made of the stuff that a top SL player is made of either ,NL1 at Widnes should suite him IMO
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| Quote ="the ditch"Shock...
can i just say that im so glad that chris bridge has nearly come through a full season without serious injury.
Not made of biscuit at all is he like all them posters last year made out...well in chris..'" Well said
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| Padders and FW in Bridge and Briers bashing session. Jeez, you two. Just sod off.
Monaghan MOM - ha!
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Padders and FW in Bridge and Briers bashing session. Jeez, you two. Just sod off.
Monaghan MOM - ha!'" To be fair, 1 in 5 voters on here have gone with this!
I'd probably go with 13 other ahead of him, maybe I'm just missing something, but I for one can't wait for Clarke and Higham to be back.
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| I'm actually hard pressed to put forward a MOM. Most pleasing was Westwood releasing himself into the game in the second half.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"I'm actually hard pressed to put forward a MOM. Most pleasing was Westwood releasing himself into the game in the second half.'" Yep, I went for Briers, but Westwood was brilliant for me.
What typified his performance for me was his try saving tackle in front of the posts in the 2nd half, and in the next set he made a barnstorming run down the middle to set up a try for us.
I have never questioned his effort, but his form has been a little off by his standards, so it was great to see him stepping up and hopefully this will continue until the end of the year.
We really need the likes of him, Carvell, Morley and Briers to hit top form going into the semi.
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| League Express have gone for Westwood as man of the match
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| Lee Briers .............to considers clicking another button is stupidity beyond anything i can comprehend. (except licking the inside of a freezer)
Thanks to Dave T for posting some intelligent stuff on this thread
maybe i need to drink more than one pint before a game to 'get' the fascination with Michael Monaghan.....I'm afraid he's not for me at 7 or 9...
and in my eyes its a point of view that can be backed up, unlike the Anti Briers nonsense that usually fills a man of the match debate
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| Forrgot to mention Mike Cooper as an honourable mention. His game seems to have come together over the past month or so. In the main, he seems to have become more agile, he was guilty in the past of being a little flat-footed in defence but he hits and sticks, which wasn't always the case in the past.
If he improves at the same rate, he will have acemented his place in the 17 come the middle of next season. He may have played Rauhihi out of what little chnace he had of another constract.
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| It's a travesty that Carvell has 6% of this vote.
It's also worth mentioning how insanely crucial he is to everything that we do now, if Lowes had any hand in signing him then it's the best thing he did for this club, the guy is brilliant.
Aside from 'Jammer', is there a better prop in SL, or World RL ?
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| Quote ="JWP"Aside from 'Jammer', is there a better prop in SL, or World RL ?'"
Just to get this straight, are you saying that Carvell and Graham are possibly the best two props in World RL at the moment
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Just to get this straight, are you saying that Carvell and Graham are possibly the best two props in World RL at the moment
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Yup.
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| Quote ="JWP"Yup.'"
Monday before 5pm? Shame on you JWP
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Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Just to get this straight, are you saying that Carvell and Graham are possibly the best two props in World RL at the moment
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According to the statistics Graham is head and shoulders above any other front row forward in northern hemisphere RL. Averaging (per game) 190 meters, 2.5 tackle busts, 24 tackles, miss tackle rate of < 3.8%, < 0.7 errors, and < 0.3 penalties.
527 carries makes him top of the stats nearly 30% more than 2nd placed Peacock, also top of the meters stats with 3805, again, 30% more than Peacock. He is also averaging close on a try every 3 games.
Comparison of Graham and Carvell here
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009
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Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Just to get this straight, are you saying that Carvell and Graham are possibly the best two props in World RL at the moment
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According to the statistics Graham is head and shoulders above any other front row forward in northern hemisphere RL. Averaging (per game) 190 meters, 2.5 tackle busts, 24 tackles, miss tackle rate of < 3.8%, < 0.7 errors, and < 0.3 penalties.
527 carries makes him top of the stats nearly 30% more than 2nd placed Peacock, also top of the meters stats with 3805, again, 30% more than Peacock. He is also averaging close on a try every 3 games.
Comparison of Graham and Carvell here
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009
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Quote ="Wires71"According to the statistics Graham is head and shoulders above any other front row forward in northern hemisphere RL. Averaging (per game) 190 meters, 2.5 tackle busts, 24 tackles, miss tackle rate of < 3.8%, < 0.7 errors, and < 0.3 penalties.
527 carries makes him top of the stats nearly 30% more than 2nd placed Peacock, also top of the meters stats with 3805, again, 30% more than Peacock. He is also averaging close on a try every 3 games.
Comparison of Graham and Carvell here
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009'"
Depends how you look at it, Carvell makes more yards per carry for example.
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Quote ="Wires71"According to the statistics Graham is head and shoulders above any other front row forward in northern hemisphere RL. Averaging (per game) 190 meters, 2.5 tackle busts, 24 tackles, miss tackle rate of < 3.8%, < 0.7 errors, and < 0.3 penalties.
527 carries makes him top of the stats nearly 30% more than 2nd placed Peacock, also top of the meters stats with 3805, again, 30% more than Peacock. He is also averaging close on a try every 3 games.
Comparison of Graham and Carvell here
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009'"
Depends how you look at it, Carvell makes more yards per carry for example.
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| Don't forget were talking about World RL.
I'm not really disputing Graham but Carvell c'mon be serious.
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| Quote ="MD7"Depends how you look at it, Carvell makes more yards per carry for example.'"
Indeed he does, and I am not criticising Carvell by any means. But given a choice between them for the Wire jersey and I would go for Graham in a heartbeat.
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| Quote ="SPIRIT OF 74"not made of the stuff that a top SL player is made of either ,NL1 at Widnes should suite him IMO'" Sorry but if you think bridge can only offer his services to a NL1 side then you are deluded!!!
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