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| Quote ="Wolfette"=redCan we make sure we stick to the facts on this topic please as Wigan have stated, that the club would consider action against anything libelous. Cheers Guys/Gals.'"
my lyrics are correct, i checked with Grandmaster Flash & melle melle before posting
don't do it, dont dont do it
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| What a complete idiot. Let's hope this acts a lesson to other players considering using said substance
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| Where's Zammo and Roly?
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| Quote ="Wire Legend"I'm not surprised in the slightest.'"
Me neither.
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| any chance we can get mitchell sargent from cas to have a word with him?
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I'm not defending him but
He hasn't been tested positive for Cocaine, he has tested positive for Benzoylecgonine which is found in cocaine.
However upon doing a little research on the substance i came across this:
"Small amounts may be traced back to certain OTC (over the counter) medications, after having been metabolised in the liver".
"Benzoylecgonine is used as the main pharmaceutical ingredient in the prescription drug Esterom, a topical solution used for the relief of muscle pain".
So depending on how much substance has been found in the test then this could pose as a legitimate excuse.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzoylecgonine
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I'm not defending him but
He hasn't been tested positive for Cocaine, he has tested positive for Benzoylecgonine which is found in cocaine.
However upon doing a little research on the substance i came across this:
"Small amounts may be traced back to certain OTC (over the counter) medications, after having been metabolised in the liver".
"Benzoylecgonine is used as the main pharmaceutical ingredient in the prescription drug Esterom, a topical solution used for the relief of muscle pain".
So depending on how much substance has been found in the test then this could pose as a legitimate excuse.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzoylecgonine
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| Quote ="SPIRIT OF 74"Wigan caught cheating again now there's a shock [size=200NOT[/size'"
=redAnd you've just earnt yourself a lovely warning.
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| cue the standard "i've got an addiction/need help controlling it" attempt to deflect blame sorry official statement from gaz hock
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| The RFL do subscrine to WADA, don't they? If so, it is a mandatory two year ban.
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| If they werent already this makes your guys big favourites for the Semi Final.
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Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"I'm not defending him but
He hasn't been tested positive for Cocaine, he has tested positive for Benzoylecgonine which is found in cocaine.
However upon doing a little research on the substance i came across this:
"Small amounts may be traced back to certain OTC (over the counter) medications, after having been metabolised in the liver".
"Benzoylecgonine is used as the main pharmaceutical ingredient in the prescription drug Esterom, a topical solution used for the relief of muscle pain".
So depending on how much substance has been found in the test then this could pose as a legitimate excuse.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzoylecgonine'"
If that were the case, and it is plausable, wouldn't Wigan or Hock come out and say we think it is potentially from the OTC drug or something similar.
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Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"I'm not defending him but
He hasn't been tested positive for Cocaine, he has tested positive for Benzoylecgonine which is found in cocaine.
However upon doing a little research on the substance i came across this:
"Small amounts may be traced back to certain OTC (over the counter) medications, after having been metabolised in the liver".
"Benzoylecgonine is used as the main pharmaceutical ingredient in the prescription drug Esterom, a topical solution used for the relief of muscle pain".
So depending on how much substance has been found in the test then this could pose as a legitimate excuse.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzoylecgonine'"
If that were the case, and it is plausable, wouldn't Wigan or Hock come out and say we think it is potentially from the OTC drug or something similar.
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| Quote ="Wolfette"=redCan we make sure we stick to the facts on this topic please as Wigan have stated, that the club would consider action against anything libelous. Cheers Guys/Gals.'"
ok Wolfette there are no stand players at Wigan
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"If that were the case, and it is plausable, wouldn't Wigan or Hock come out and say we think it is potentially from the OTC drug or something similar.'"
They could and should have done, linking it to cocaine is easier because it's most commonly found in the said substance, I understand that all parties involved have to explore all avenues regarding the subject but what happened to innocent until proven guilty, he may have a very good excuse for it, like the one mentioned.
Everybody is already labeling him a bag head and such like before he's given his side of the story, this thread title is way off for a start.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"They could and should have done, linking it to cocaine is easier because it's most commonly found in the said substance, I understand that all parties involved have to explore all avenues regarding the subject but what happened to innocent until proven guilty, he may have a very good excuse for it, like the one mentioned.
Everybody is already labeling him a bag head and such like before he's given his side of the story, this thread title is way off for a start.'"
Why?
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"They could and should have done, linking it to cocaine is easier because it's most commonly found in the said substance, I understand that all parties involved have to explore all avenues regarding the subject but what happened to innocent until proven guilty, he may have a very good excuse for it, like the one mentioned.
Everybody is already labeling him a bag head and such like before he's given his side of the story, this thread title is way off for a start.'" The fact that reputable news programmes are stating he has been found guilty of Cocaine, and the fact that the Wigan website highlighted the fact that this is a metabolite of cocaine, should tell you enough about this one.
The most disappointing thing about this kind of thing is that if you go to the Wigan Warriors website they are trying to sell kids training camps for the summer. If you were a parent, wouldn't you seriously consider whether these are the kind of players that you want involved with your kids?
I also made this point about the likes of Reardon btw, so this isn't an anti-Wigan post. It is an anti-d!ckhead post.
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| Quote ="Mark"Why?'"
He tested positive for Benzoylecgonine which is a drug found in cocaine and other medications, doesn't mean he been taking cocaine, as it's already been mentioned in this thread to stick to facts then that is what I'm doing.
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| IF true, then what an idiot. Even dumber than he looks, and that's saying somethin'!
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/8050357.stm
any coincidence he was left out of this?'" He did play against France though didn't he. Surely if there was any sniff of this then he wouldn't have playd in that game.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"If that were the case, and it is plausable, wouldn't Wigan or Hock come out and say we think it is potentially from the OTC drug or something similar.'"
But they have only had circa 24 hours to consider their approach. I should imagine a great deal of legal work is being done in the background looking for mitigation or a flaw in the sample process. Also should his B:Sample be negative he will be in the clear.
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| Quote ="Dave T"He did play against France though didn't he. Surely if there was any sniff of this then he wouldn't have playd in that game.'"
Bdum tsch!
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| Quote ="Dave T"He did play against France though didn't he. Surely if there was any sniff of this then he wouldn't have playd in that game.'"
do you not remember when everyone was complaining about eh MIA's from that squad, che smith came out and said the rfl had cocked up releasing this as the elite squad/have to let WADA know where they are 24/7 for testing purposes and everyone had assumed it was the england squad, when it wasn't.
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I'm saying he been found guilty of having Benzoylecgonine in his system, this drug is found in other medications including the drug cocaine, why is that so hard for you to understand.
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I'm saying he been found guilty of having Benzoylecgonine in his system, this drug is found in other medications including the drug cocaine, why is that so hard for you to understand.
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| Quote ="Wires71"But they have only had circa 24 hours to consider their approach. I should imagine a great deal of legal work is being done in the background looking for mitigation or a flaw in the sample process.'"
I hope not.
If he's been tested positive Wigan should use him as an example to all the other over paid dic*heads we currently have at the club.
I don't care how good a player he is, we shouldn't be making excuses for him and he should be made to pay the price for what he's done.
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