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| Quote ="MrPhilb"He's correct, The catalans player tocuhed the ball before it hit the ground over the touch line and then it landed on the touchline. The correct decision was a scrum to St Helens
If pelo just lets the ball go into touch then it is a scrum to the catalans, I really don't understand why he decided to touch it'"
You got a video of the incident again mate? I was sure as Pelo attempted to palm it back (stupidly) he was already over the sideline??
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"He's correct, The catalans player tocuhed the ball before it hit the ground over the touch line and then it landed on the touchline. The correct decision was a scrum to St Helens
If pelo just lets the ball go into touch then it is a scrum to the catalans, I really don't understand why he decided to touch it'"
Both Gidley and the Catalans player (who's name escapes) took air swings at it, neither connected.
Are you saying it landed on the touchline? If so, it would have been a penalty.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Both Gidley and the Catalans player (who's name escapes) took air swings at it, neither connected.'"
Correct and then Pelo touched it before it bounced over the touchline
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Both Gidley and the Catalans player (who's name escapes) took air swings at it, neither connected.'"
I thought this too.
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| Quote ="BringBackRugbyLeagueBiff"You got a video of the incident again mate? I was sure as Pelo attempted to palm it back (stupidly) he was already over the sideline??'"
Yes the ball was over the line but Pelo jumped from within the field of play and touched the ball before it bounced then it bounced on the touchline, as much as I hate thaler he made the correct call
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Yes the ball was over the line but Pelo jumped from within the field of play and touched the ball before it bounced then it bounced on the touchline, as much as I hate thaler he made the correct call'"
If I am honest, I'm not following you.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Both Gidley and the Catalans player (who's name escapes) took air swings at it, neither connected.
Are you saying it landed on the touchline? If so, it would have been a penalty.'"
No
The ball was kicked off and no one touched it.
The ball was in the air over the touchline - the ball is still live.
The Cats player jumped with his feet off the ground out of play and palmed it towards the field - the ball is still live.
The ball never made it back into the field of play, it bounced out of play after being made dead by the Cats player.
Scrum Saints.
A top tip from the wise, before calling someone a fecktard get your facts straigh or you end up looking like one
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www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... 0_05_2009/
1:33:10 is when the incident occurs.
I still think the ball is miles over the touchline.. and whether he's in the air or not.. the ball is dead.
Needs clearing up anyway! Not the best of rules, but I have seen it admittingly when a kick is out on the full and the player steps over the sideline and catches it.
Iffy decision to make though.
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www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... 0_05_2009/
1:33:10 is when the incident occurs.
I still think the ball is miles over the touchline.. and whether he's in the air or not.. the ball is dead.
Needs clearing up anyway! Not the best of rules, but I have seen it admittingly when a kick is out on the full and the player steps over the sideline and catches it.
Iffy decision to make though.
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| Quote ="saintc"No
The ball was kicked off and no one touched it.
The ball was in the air over the touchline - the ball is still live.
The Cats player jumped with his feet off the ground out of play and palmed it towards the field - the ball is still live.
The ball never made it back into the field of play, it bounced out of play after being made dead by the Cats player.
Scrum Saints.
A top tip from the wise, before calling someone a fecktard get your facts straigh or you end up looking like one
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How can it be live, it is outside the field of play. That is the equivalent of kicking for touch, crossing the line, then somebody batting it back in the field of play, whilst stood outside the pitch.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"How can it be live, it is outside the field of play. That is the equivalent of kicking for touch, crossing the line, then somebody batting it back in the field of play, whilst stood outside the pitch.'"
I agree, it is quite daft.
Still not as bad as these 'knock-ons' every time the ball hits the deck and the ridiculous amount of un-noticed forward passes.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"How can it be live, it is outside the field of play. That is the equivalent of kicking for touch, crossing the line, then somebody batting it back in the field of play, whilst stood outside the pitch.'"
Because it hadnt touched the ground. Had the Catalans player managed to palm that ball back in without either himself or the ball touching the ground outside of the field of play then it would have been play on.
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| Quote ="saintc"Because it hadnt touched the ground. Had the Catalans player managed to palm that ball back in without either himself or the ball touching the ground outside of the field of play then it would have been play on.'"
it was still live because it doesn't touch the floor, and pelo jumped from the field of play, correct decision
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"How can it be live, it is outside the field of play. =redThat is the equivalent of kicking for touch, crossing the line, then somebody batting it back in the field of play, whilst stood outside the pitch.'"
which you can do providing your feet are both off the ground when you touch the ball
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| Quote ="Who are ya!!"it was still live because it doesn't touch the floor, and pelo jumped from the field of play, correct decision'"
The ball doesn't have to touch the ground outside the pitch to be out of play.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"The ball doesn't have to touch the ground outside the pitch to be out of play.'"
Of course it does. What about the Gasnier try that Ingliss jumped over the dead ball line with and flicked back?
I saw Lyon do the same for us but at the touchline after Long had put a kick in that was going dead and he flicked it back to Gardner while out of the field of play in mid air.
Thems the rules.
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| unfortunately I agree with the Fecktard on this it was a saints Scrum...
and didnt the Catalan Centre have a go at Pelo for doing such a stupid thing in the first place...
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"unfortunately I agree with the Fecktard on this it was a saints Scrum...
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Monkey Man thought it wasnt so you cant have agreed with him
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| Quote ="saintc"No
The ball was kicked off and no one touched it.
=redThe ball was in the air over the touchline - the ball is still live. The Cats player jumped with his feet off the ground out of play and palmed it towards the field - the ball is still live.
The ball never made it back into the field of play, it bounced out of play after being made dead by the Cats player.
Scrum Saints.
A top tip from the wise, before calling someone a fecktard get your facts straigh or you end up looking like one
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But if you have your foot over the dead ball line and catch the ball it is a 20m restart.(your advantage)
Therefore if you are over the touchline and touch the ball it should be a scrum to you
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| Quote ="saintc"Because it hadnt touched the ground. Had the Catalans player managed to palm that ball back in without either himself or the ball touching the ground outside of the field of play then it would have been play on.'"
hate to say it you right on this the only thing you are right on tho...if it was the other way round you lot would be up in arms moaning...one day it will happen see if a bellend like you agrees
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| Quote ="roversmad"But if you have your foot over the dead ball line and catch the ball it is a 20m restart.(your advantage)
Therefore if you are over the touchline and touch the ball it should be a scrum to you'"
no
the difference is that the feet are on the ground for one example and not the other. This really isnt that difficult. In addition, to take advantage of that restart thing you have to have one foot out and the other in the field of play, dont you?
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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"hate to say it you right on this the only thing you are right on tho...if it was the other way round you lot would be up in arms moaning...one day it will happen see if a bellend like you agrees'"
Thankyou for your nice comments, they are appreciated.
If it happened to us I wouldnt moan because I know the rules. I dont sit there in perpetual outrage waiting to jump on a ref for allegedly cheating in favour of a team i dislike so Im unlikely to jump in like a moron with cries of cheat without getting my facts straight first
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| Quote ="saintc"before calling someone a fecktard get your facts straigh or you end up looking like one
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That is ace, you played any traffic cones lately?
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| It's a shame RL has no strong willed personalities like Ballack and Drogba to stand up against refereeing injustice.
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| Quote ="gateaux"Sorry it was never destined to be a "very close game". I can't believe anyone is seriously suggesting that a 34 point difference is down to ref bias
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You never answered my question about who you support.
Given your totally biased comments you are a Saints fan.
Im speaking as a neutral in that i dont care for saints or catalans, and what i witnessed yesterday was a poor refereeing display by Thaler which benefited saints and more than hindered catalans.
The ref basically gave saints two trys by awarding penalties that never were and also disallowed a perfectly good catalans try. Without those glaring errors alone it would have been a much closer game.
You are talking out of your saints rose tinted glasses. Just take it from a neutrals point of view and accept it
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| Quote ="Mark"That is ace, you played any traffic cones lately?'"
We're top of the league and in the semi finals of the CC
That will do me mate.
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