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| Quote ="Mark"Ahh right, surely they could beat the worst Bradford side you've seen in the past 13 years? I mean....it's not that hard is it?'"
evidently it was. That side is still the worst Bradford side in well over a decade as proven by where they are in the league and the fact that they have players like Worrincy, Platt and Ricky Sheriff playing in it rather than Hape, Vainikolo and Peacock.
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| [iLes Boyd Is God wrote: best thing to happen at this club since the late 80`s when sir les was here....gunna change the title to t.s.i g.o.d[/i
The above is a perfectly reasonable comment given that TS is the first coach we've had since the 1970s who has actually won a senior trophy with another club before coming to us.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"
The above is a perfectly reasonable comment given that TS is the first coach we've had since the 1970s who has actually won a senior trophy with another club before coming to us.
Kelvyn'"
Well, lets forget about what he's won at other clubs as it really doesnt matter. Lets just stick to what he's done at Warrington.
Are you seriously telling me that Smith is the best thing that has happened to Warrington in that length of time because hehas turned the side from a few straight losses into 2 wins on the bounce?
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| No, but Smith is without question the coach with the best track record to be at this club for thirty years. While nothing is guaranteed, the fans can have no quarrel with the club's choice here. Remarks about this are much more based on his potential ( which even you can't deny he has ) rather than where he's taken the current squad in half-a-dozen games.
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Quote ="JWP"I wouldn't swap him for any other coach in World RL, genuinely. Right man for the job in hand right now.'"
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Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"So Tony Smith gives up a job at a top SL club to have a dig at International RL. Only to give it up at the first opportunity.
Makes sense if you are an eejit I guess.'"
Quote ="Rob Wire"It wouldn`t be hard to do both jobs, Noble managed it without any problems and the international calander won`t exactly be bulging with fixtures in 2009.'"
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Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"So Tony Smith gives up a job at a top SL club to have a dig at International RL. Only to give it up at the first opportunity.
Makes sense if you are an eejit I guess.'"
Quote ="Rob Wire"It wouldn`t be hard to do both jobs, Noble managed it without any problems and the international calander won`t exactly be bulging with fixtures in 2009.'"
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| Quote ="saintc"
are a little OTT given you have won 2 games. I also commented that people jump in too quickly to critisise when its not going well but this jumping in is also being done too soon regarding how good Smith is doing. Its too soon yet.
Now, where in those very reasonable comments is there anything that is either not true or out of order?'"
This is the crux of where you show you haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
Winning, or losing for that matter, has nothing to do with the praise being given to Smith.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"This is the crux of where you show you haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
Winning, or losing for that matter, has nothing to do with the praise being given to Smith.'"
what and its just a funny co-incidence that these comments have only come after your 2 wins. There were none of these "Smith is the best thing since sliced bread" after the Cas game, was there?
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| Quote ="saintc"what and its just a funny co-incidence that these comments have only come after your 2 wins. There were none of these "Smith is the best thing since sliced bread" after the Cas game, was there?'"
I think you will find it stems back to the defeat by Leeds.
In Smith we trust has been bandied around here for the past month. By the simple fact you refer to defeats highlights the point you just don't get it.
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| Quote ="saintc"what and its just a funny co-incidence that these comments have only come after your 2 wins. There were none of these "Smith is the best thing since sliced bread" after the Cas game, was there?'"
No doubt people are bouyed by the wins - I don't think that's unusual.
However GDMM is right -it's as much about off the field than on it. And by off the field I'm still referring to the players.
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| Quote ="saintc"what and its just a funny co-incidence that these comments have only come after your 2 wins. There were none of these "Smith is the best thing since sliced bread" after the Cas game, was there?'" Actually, this is why I took issue with your first comments, because you are wrong. Smith has had nothing but praise and support ever since he took over.
Even after the Quins shocker people had faith in him. Many of us have wanted Smith for a good while, so people are not now making judgements based on a couple of wins. People have been excited about this appointment since it happened, and now we are actually seeing a hint of what may come. We aren't stupid, we know that everything isn;t suddenly fixed, but in the last couple of weeks we have done things which didn't look possible just 8 weeks ago.
We are taking the best bits of what we did under Cullen (flair), but are disciplined enough to know when to do it and when to hold the ball. Cullen couldn't sort that,yet Smith has made great strides already. Likewise with much of the defence. We are no longer guaranteed to concede when defending our line.
So what if people are getting excited about having Smith in charge, but you are wrong when you claim it has come on the back of a couple of wins.
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Defensive line disciplined
Kick chase 100 times better
Pack playing with confidence
King looking like an Aussie test star again
Monaghan looking like a rugby player again
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Expansive Rugby
I think it would be naive to say TS hasn't had a hand in any of that
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"Penalty count down
Defensive line disciplined
Kick chase 100 times better
Pack playing with confidence
King looking like an Aussie test star again
Monaghan looking like a rugby player again
Deadwood leaving
Matches being won
Expansive Rugby
I think it would be naive to say TS hasn't had a hand in any of that'"
That's just the start of it.
Not only do we appear to have a gameplan now, we have one that the players seem to understand, enjoy & want to be a part of. I've never seen us do the little things so well, the kick chase, the sliding defence, the scrambling defence, dominating the floor, clearing the ruck, marker tackles. All the daft things that Saints & Leeds fans will have taken for ages, but we've looked on in envy, we are bridging the gap, for sure.
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| Quote ="The Casual Des"Agree. Certain players (your Briers' etc) will be dreading training sessions under Smith and the extra scrutiny. The others who wanna push themselves will thrive under Smith.'"
Don't you think that Briers has thrived under Tony Smith? I certainly think he has
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"Penalty count down
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I think it would be naive to say TS hasn't had a hand in any of that'"
If I may add my personal favourite; line speed in defence.
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| Quote ="WalterWizard"Don't you think that Briers has thrived under Tony Smith? I certainly think he has'"
Because if he doesn't perform he won't be playing !!
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| Quote ="MrF"Because if he doesn't perform he won't be playing !!'"
That goes for all of them
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