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| Quote ="Mark"Joe Williams is a good signing for leigh.'"
is that the joe williams lower nrl teams were fghting over a year or two back that signed for someone in france?
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| He'll love it in Barrow - Some great nights out up here
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| Quote ="RL Lover"but I can guarantee more proffessionalism and players who apply themselves properly.
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yeah but can you guarantee a player that is actually any good ...??
because his last two half back partners have been as bad as your ever going to see in Warrington colours. But people like you choose to ignore that....
no doubt you'll wee yourself when the 31 year old Matt orford is announced as Briers Replacement .....
he'll give us one good year, will not take up his second year option due to injury/old age/homesickness and will be lifted on the shoulders of the players while an adoring south stand chant his name and thank him eternally for the 22 games he played.....
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| Quote ="RL Lover"Cant understand why not.
It will be a watershed moment, the most important departure in the clubs history.
You see, as soon as he leaves this club can move on. I cant guarantee success on the back of it but I can guarantee more proffessionalism and players who apply themselves properly.
I cant wait.'"
Who are you? Tony Smith? Those things are down to the coach and/or club management to dictate. What Briers guaranteed us was a halfback who could really deliver - one who could create things few others could and as had many, many great games for us including our most recent match.
Replacing that is NOT going to be easy - apart from 18 months from Langer and 3 games from Johns, we've failed to provide any one decent for him to play alongside in 12 years. Look at Wigans repeated failed attempts to sign halfbacks. It is not easy. Going to be a BIG hole to fill.
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| He's hardly Mr Irreplaceable, obviously nobody else in Super League is interested in him else he wouldn't be going to Barrow.
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| People seem to forget the amount of games that he has almost single handily won for Warrington!
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"He's hardly Mr Irreplaceable, obviously nobody else in Super League is interested in him else he wouldn't be going to Barrow.'"
Obviously he's not exactly someone a SL club would want to build their future around, given he has 12 years behind him instead of in front of him. But come on - look at our attempts to sign a No.7 in recent years. It's not easy signing a halfback.
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| Pretty sure I've been snared there by sally, but don't care, some people will be thinking along those lines!
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| Been a very good servant to the club in the past 12 years, possibly the best transfer fee the club ever spent in terms of years of service.
If he had been given a half back partner of equal standing and ability who knows what would have happened.
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| Quote ="SEB"icon_rolleyes.gif Obviously he's not exactly someone a SL club would want to build their future around, given he has 12 years behind him instead of in front of him. But come on - look at our attempts to sign a No.7 in recent years. It's not easy signing a halfback.'"
Why do people keep bringing his age into this, it has nothing to do with anything he simply just isn't good enough, if TS thought he was worthy of a 2 or 3 year contract he would give him one. When that contract eventually runs out he would then be 33-34 and would be shipped to a lesser club if not retire.
Sean Long will be 33 this year and Matt Orford is 30, if Orford does indeed come to Warrington or stay in Australia he will get at least a 2 or 3 year deal and that would make him 33 at the end. Why are Long and Orford playing top flight rugby between the ages of 30-33.
it's because there good enough and Briers isn't.
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| Whilst I am not disappointed to see Briers leave us at the end of the season purely because I believe his better days are now behind him.
I will also not forget what a good servant he has been to Warrington, I only hope we can win some silverware this season for him to send him on his way.
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| Quote ="Inside Knowledge"Why do people keep bringing his age into this, it has nothing to do with anything he simply just isn't good enough, if TS thought he was worthy of a 2 or 3 year contract he would give him one. When that contract eventually runs out he would then be 33-34 and would be shipped to a lesser club if not retire.
Sean Long will be 33 this year and Matt Orford is 30, if Orford does indeed come to Warrington or stay in Australia he will get at least a 2 or 3 year deal and that would make him 33 at the end. Why are Long and Orford playing top flight rugby between the ages of 30-33.
it's because there good enough and Briers isn't.'"
He has been good enough to win games for us, you only have to look back as far as Friday night to see that....
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| No you've not been snared, its just my opinion he's had his moments and done good things for us, he's obviously a player with talent, but mentally I don't think he was at the top level. He wasn't a tough competitor like Greg Mackey or Nat Wood, you rarely saw Briers turn things around when we were losing and in need of inspiration...when the team was in a slump Briers was always in the slump as well. In fairness to him though he was always a good option in a tight game to kick a drop goal under pressure late on.
Through his career theres been a lot of exaggeration about how good he is, to hear the way some fans and media talk hes the man who would have beaten the Aussies if he'd been picked for GB, how many times did our fans boast that he was better than Pryce, McGuire, Sinfield etc, it sounds laughable now. Fair enough some players don't fit the bill with certain coaches but Briers was overlooked by a few different international coaches, and he wasn't wanted by any of the top clubs, which tells you something. Having people always tell him how good he is and massage his ego probably hasn't helped him.
He's had a long career with us and got some good stats but I think it would have been healthier for the club if we'd signed a character like Andrew Dunemann back then rather than Briers.
I also think with Smith's record on shrewd recruitment that we will get a better player than Briers in, and be a better team for it....just because Cullen made bad calls doesn't mean Smith will.
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| Quote ="Wolfette"He has been good enough to win games for us, you only have to look back as far as Friday night to see that....
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He cant do it against world class teams tho like a good half-back can, he looks great against poor clubs and very very poor against good clubs. His kicking game is atrocious, his discipline is shocking and although he has improved a little, his defence is disgracefull.
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| Quote ="Wolfette"He has been good enough to win games for us, you only have to look back as far as Friday night to see that....
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I was just thinking that myself! He clearly IS playing top flight rugby in the 30-33 age bracket!
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| Being a 'Briers denier' is as severe as a holocaust denier in my book!
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| Quote ="Carbon Glacier"I was just thinking that myself! He clearly IS playing top flight rugby in the 30-33 age bracket!'"
Not for long tho sunshine, NL1 is calling.
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| Quote ="Inside Knowledge"Not for long tho sunshine, NL1 is calling.'"
Give over. If he gave us another 2 years and then retired you'd claim to being right all along!
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| Quote ="Carbon Glacier"Give over. If he gave us another 2 years and then retired you'd claim to being right all along!'"
People on this forum hold local players or long standing players in to much of a high regard, doesn't matter if they were born in Longford or Lithuania, played 10 years or 10 mins, if your not good enough then your not good enough.
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| Quote ="Inside Knowledge"People on this forum hold local players or long standing players in to much of a high regard, doesn't matter if they were born in Longford or Lithuania, played 10 years or 10 mins, if your not good enough then your not good enough.'"
You do know that Tony Smith picked him for international honours don't you? People seem to think that Smith doesn't rate him. I don't know where this comes from.
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| Quote ="Inside Knowledge"People on this forum hold local players or long standing players in to much of a high regard, doesn't matter if they were born in Longford or Lithuania, played 10 years or 10 mins, if your not good enough then your not good enough.'"
I think he's the actual king of the world.
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Realistically in the past, homegrown players have been overlooked by those on the terraces in favour of big name aussies.
Either way the guy has given the best years of his life to our club and whether we think he was any good or noth should be thanked for that aspect alone.
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