Yep - having Briers in our team has brought us countless trophies. We also had a first team coach who as a player was extremely successful (something which I believe you have consistently called for in the past, correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you one of the ones calling for Sean Edwards to coach us based purely on his playing record before he moved in to coaching Union?) - and look what that got us.



What has Briers achieved in club rugby? not a great deal, really.

I think what this team needs is not so much players with bags of experience, success and an age group of 30-35, but players with ability who have a thirst to prove themselves and take any opportunities they get.



I would agree with that - however, Tony Smith seems to be indicating that he has a sufficiently capable squad of players available to him and that things are fixable, given his record in coaching so far (ignoring the RLWC of course) I think I'm prepared to stick by him and see what improvements are made between now and the end of the season ... I definitely don't think getting rid of players right now is the answer, mainly because any quality replacements for released players are unlikely to be available.

Firstly, i`m not sure what point your trying to make here, i`ll refer you back to what you quoted me on when i was describing the type of halback we need at the min "We need experience and proven, reliable performers at the min with a touch of class".

Since when has Lee Briers ever been a reliable performer ? I was obviously stating that we need a player who has experience, is a reliable performer with a touch of class and that isn`t Lee Briers is it from the part i have put in bold.

I was comparing Richie Myler who is a rookie and is the type of player which we don`t need right now in such a key position to the type of player which we do need and is in the quotation marks above.

No, it wasn`t me that was calling for Sean Edwards. It was someone else that raised his name and i expressed my doubts about Edwards as to how long he had been away from rugby league went, it would have been like chancing yet another rookie coach which had no guarnetees and its not what we didn`t need at the time is what i said.

My choices in the past for head coach were Craig Bellamy as the ideal man for the job but more realistically i said Tony Smith was the one we were most likely to get as he had no club ties.

hope these rumours are true...hope it does`nt stop there
i.e get shut of reardon.. johnson..v. anderson..rauhihi..and any more hanging on by there finger nails

Fair enough Rob, I initially read your post as though you were comparing potential candidates to what we already had (i.e., I thought you were referring to Briers as the man who met your required standards).

Also, I could have sworn that you were one of the many "Edwards in" brigade, senility must be setting in early

Correct Rob a week ago Sam Tomkins was the answer to wigans prayers.
on Friday at Leeds he was the invisible man(boy).

they can not challenge for trophies with a boy in that position.

No Paul, like i typed above i have my doubts about any person that has been away from rugby league for as long as Sean Edwards has been away and then coming back as a coach, the game has changed a lot since his playing days and a rookie coach is not what we needed before Tony Smith took over. Thats why i raised my concerns about Lowes being given the job when he was announced as our new coach as he was a rookie himself who also was part of the shambolic Salford season that cost Karl Harrison his job.

sam tomkins wish he was here

dint jimmy lowes take you on big winning run when he took over.

look how long that was , he dosent seem to deliver it this year before tony smith joined us

same , he can run at the defence got a good side step can draw players to him before he can offload the ball and most important he can tackle , something that briers cant do

no hes not.

i said that ages ago!

good player is brough

seen him at the game against leeds...5foot 2 12 stone wet thru heart of a lion..one lad for the future along with joe westerman....better than king monas briers and the rest put together...they`ve got more heart

We should have got Dobson while we had the chance.

you just mensioned to kids who can run at the defence with out crapping there pants and both of them can tackle and give it 100% every week , briers cant tackle if a little kid came running at him and monaghan when he gets the ball he gives it the oppossition by passing it , how may times this season have we seen that happen and matt king i would rather play with 12 players than 13 .

Don't think he would have the same effect at Wire as he does at Wakefield as he seems to have the freedom to do what he wants and a stack of workhorses around him.

I have a feeling his defensive frailties may be more aparant at Warrington

I am sure I remember Dobson being a laughing stock when he joined Hull KR

so what your all saying is that theres only Lee Briers out there on the field!!! get a grip of yourselves you idiots... try putting the blame on someone else for a change.

but we've been told to lay off matt king...

I knew it wouldnt be long till you popped up...

There's a post on the Barrow forum that Lee Briers could be coming on loan to Barrow until the end of the season, does anyone know if there is any truth in this.

Can I just ask where/what/who the connection is with Briers and Barrow?

In the past, we've had rumours he's going to the following:

Leigh, as a swap for Neil Turley. Made some sense, in that the coach at the time was playing Briers at Full Back.
Saints, his hometown club.
Hull KR, 'cause his missus wants to move back home.
Widnes, 'cause best mate Cullen is there.
Celtic Crusaders, 'cause he was a high profile player for the Welsh RL side.

Now, I can't see any obvious link with Barrow. Maybe, just maybe, off all of these rumours, the least obvious one is true. Is that irony?

Andy Bracek.

Why does everybody seem to rate Myler? Is it purely based on his NL1 form? I didn't think he was even that good then, and he is way out of his depth now. I don't care how old he is, I don't want him to sign for us.

nothing will happen in the next few weeks apart from some changes to who plays where.