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| Quote ="rubber duckie"There have been many RU forwards converted to RL.
It the most successful position as I see it.'"
Not many props though. Back Row mostly.
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Quote ="Smiffy27"There was a top Union prop who signed League ... Mike Coulman Salford (he was a success). But I can't think of more. Must be a few at a lower level.'"
Did Mike Nicholas MBE play union first? He was one of our best props of all time.
Roland Phillips definitely did and here is is with number 10 on his back https://twitter.com/i/status/1108839958712930304
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Quote ="Smiffy27"There was a top Union prop who signed League ... Mike Coulman Salford (he was a success). But I can't think of more. Must be a few at a lower level.'"
Did Mike Nicholas MBE play union first? He was one of our best props of all time.
Roland Phillips definitely did and here is is with number 10 on his back https://twitter.com/i/status/1108839958712930304
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Yes they did. I think we have our wires crossed a bit.
I'm saying ... there are not many who played prop in Union and then signed RL.
There are hundreds who have played Union (at back row) then played prop in League.
Mike Nicholas & Roland Phillips would have been mainly back row in Union. Nicholas must have played a bit at prop ... but would have preferred back row.
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Yes they did. I think we have our wires crossed a bit.
I'm saying ... there are not many who played prop in Union and then signed RL.
There are hundreds who have played Union (at back row) then played prop in League.
Mike Nicholas & Roland Phillips would have been mainly back row in Union. Nicholas must have played a bit at prop ... but would have preferred back row.
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| I think that Mike played at prop for Aberavon although his senior debut was at halfback.
Roland Philips was a back row forward in Union and, although Wikipeadia lists his as a second row for the Wire, I seem to recall him as a prop. This was the era when Clive Griffiths was assistant coach to Brian Johnson and we brough a few Welsh Rugby Union guys over including Alan Bateman, Kevin Ellis and the aforementioned Roland Philips. The difference between a Union and a League prop weren't quite as great as today but even so it took a while for the Union players to adapt.
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| Quote ="St Helens Wolf"I think that Mike played at prop for Aberavon although his senior debut was at halfback.
Roland Philips was a back row forward in Union and, although Wikipeadia lists his as a second row for the Wire, I seem to recall him as a prop. This was the era when Clive Griffiths was assistant coach to Brian Johnson and we brough a few Welsh Rugby Union guys over including Alan Bateman, Kevin Ellis and the aforementioned Roland Philips. The difference between a Union and a League prop weren't quite as great as today but even so it took a while for the Union players to adapt.'"
we played him at prop, he should have been a second rower, he would have been more effective, we did the same thing with dave king when we signed him from huddersfield.
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| Saints signed Stuart Evans in the late 80s (?). Pretty sure he was a prop in both codes. Don't recall him being much cop for them though.
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| Cliff Watson didn’t do too badly. Signed in 1960 after Saints advertised for top class RU forwards.
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| Quote ="worthing wire"Saints signed Stuart Evans in the late 80s (?). Pretty sure he was a prop in both codes. Don't recall him being much cop for them though.'"
He was rubbish, in fact he was [iuber[/i rubbish. He made Rowland Phillips look like Les Boyd.
He was better then Mark Jones though. He was built like an outside lavvy and stunk to the same extent. Physique of Sylvester Stallone, rugby league ability of Sylvester Pussycat.
Sufferin sucotash, indeed.
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| Stuart Evans was tosh, but in the same breath, was nobody's fool if a certain story is to be believed, regarding himself and Gary Stretch (a boxer from At Helens in the late 80's/early 90's) in a local chippy.
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| Kelvin Coslett & Jim Mills.
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| Bobby Wanbon also came from Welsh Rugby Union.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Stuart Evans was tosh, but in the same breath, was nobody's fool if a certain story is to be believed, regarding himself and Gary Stretch (a boxer from At Helens in the late 80's/early 90's) in a local chippy.'"
I heard a similar story but with Tony Burke.
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Mike Nicholas MBE was signed as a second row, and moved to prop after his knee went at Wembley.
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Mike Nicholas MBE was signed as a second row, and moved to prop after his knee went at Wembley.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"I heard a similar story but with Tony Burke.'"
I'm sure it was Kevin Ward who had an altercation with Gary Stretch.
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| They're all [ilame under the cap[/i in Sintellins, so I'm not surprised that the story has so many variants.
By the end of the week, it may well be that unfunny twunt Johnny Vegas, or his funnier sidekick, Monkehhh.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"There have been many RU forwards converted to RL.
It the most successful position as I see it.'"
Like Welsh RU international and golf cart driver Andy Powell who went to Wigan....
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"Like Welsh RU international and golf cart driver Andy Powell who went to Wigan....'"
I'd forgotten about him
They might as well've signed Peter Powell or even Jenny
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| Quote ="Wires71"I'm sure it was Kevin Ward who had an altercation with Gary Stretch.'"
The chippy incident was between Stretch and Paul Forber's brother
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| I think this chippy incident is being [istretched[/i too much
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"I think this chippy incident is being [istretched[/i too much'"
A quick google and Stu Evans name enters the fray as the alleged assailant
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| Did anyone get battered in this chippy incident......... Sorry couldn't resist
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"Did anyone get battered in this chippy incident......... Sorry couldn't resist'" With that pun, this plaice is giving me a haddock.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12305637
BMM rumoured to New Zealand Warriors for 2021'"
Maybe we should do an early exchange deal now for him, with Peta Hiku coming to Wire.
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