Just to clarify ... you don't have to be bitter and twisted to challenge ideas of any sort but if all you do is moan and groan & be negative then you are by my definition bitter & twisted. Try to enjoy your sport & the Wire ... as "Sally" ... beautifully pointed out ... you've never had it so good. Just be a little thankful for how good we have been in the last ten years.

Morrissey could make a song out of this

Hard earned money
Hard earned money
I pay good hard earned money to watch the team I love
Entertain me
Entertain me
Oh why don't you entertain me
The right of paying customers to complain
Keeps gerbil racing off the TV...

Someone get Johnny on the phone right away.

And a kitchen sink drama picture for the record cover

Quote ="rubber duckie"You speak for yourself https://bonuscodepoker.com/could-regula ... in-revenue'" RD, this sport is corrupt, there's a ringer of a hamster in that photograph!

Quote ="rubber duckie"You speak for yourself https://bonuscodepoker.com/could-regula ... in-revenue'" RD, this sport is corrupt, there's a ringer of a hamster in that photograph!

I listened to Watson's post match interview from yesterday's Salford v Leeds game. He wasn't happy with the referee, and made reference to referees making decisions that can effect relegation and players livelihoods. I thought it very odd that he was talking about relegation after just four games, and on that basis I would give him a very wide berth.

It is also bad form to publicly berate a young referee no matter how bad you thought he was. We have a huge problem with the lack of referees and is it any wonder when coaches talk about them like that? Watson is not the man for us.

Watson isn’t the answer for Wire. Compare his post game rants with the insightful and intelligent views of Trent Robinson.

Dear Fellow Supporter,
Enjoy watching BMM, D Clark & young Ashton ... it's fun
Enjoy the buzz of the Halliwell Jones
Be thankful you don't support some other clubs around us
Be grateful for supporters putting money into the club ... cos they love the Wire

But most of all ... please don't keep banging that same old negative drum

Week before he was moaning about Kev Brown's head butt target (forget who it was now) feigning injury. He seems under pressure, wonder if the threat to players' livelihoods is more of a financial than an officiating thing.

Lest we forget, there are some that have been complaining since his appt, since the early part of his first season, since we got to the challenge cup and since we got to the gf.

They'd already made their minds up, and wont vary that, its almost as if they enjoy wallowing in poor form so they can jump up and down and say, look at me, im right.

It's a bit sad really.

It is sad. But it's a problem with forums.
In real life if someone keeps being negative and boring in a bar you just ignore them and shuffle round to talk to someone else. But on a forum ... never played, never coached, not a clue ... but here is my opinion ... Herbert Thringblatt is useless and Jimmy Jimmyjams ought to be in charge.

Interestingly, there's an almost identical thread going on over at Hull FC forum and you can bet your life mumblings of discontent will be surfacing soon at Salford.

Hull are virtually a carbon copy of us, of course. Wealthy owner, couple of CC wins, nice stadium, huge potential in the squad but still not taking the next step.

Maybe the world is less forgiving, maybe social media allows people to vent thoughts they previously kept hidden, maybe it's the English disease or maybe there's a lot of rubbish coaches about.

You're nor wrong, the idea is to win, and you did.

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You used to hear all this stuff said at Wilderspool. If we were getting beat at halftime you would always get some robust punditry in the bogs behind the Fletcher Street End.

It's all to do with expectations. Hull & Warrington supporters have relatively high expectations of pushing Saints & Wigan this year. This increases the pressure & the discontent. However I doubt if many realistic Salford fans will be expecting too much this year.



When Wire were bang average there wouldn't have been anywhere near the fuss at losing at Wakefield and struggling to beat Toronto. Winning the Challenge Cup & finishing 4th in the League would be a call for a knighthood for the Coach.

I remember when we were bang average there being a sit in after losing to Huddersfield and when we lost to Widnes people went and confronted Matt Rodwell in front of his family in the car park.

His remarks were definitely aimed at officials making wrong decisions that could lead to a clubs relegation. Nothing mentioned about Salford's financial situation.

Robust punditry, a robust stomach was required to enter those bogs in the first place!

Yes the newer generation of Wire fans think they've got something to complain about with not winning Grand Finals, at least they don't have to worry about what shoes to wear for the match because the soles were going to stink of urine for the next 3 days after paddling about in the Fletcher Street gents.

Then in the early 2000s they started giving out those player cards which compounded the problem as all the drains were blocked up with people peeing on Steve McCurrie, Dean Busby or whoever.

It's the manner in which you win. It's all very well and good scraping a win and saying people need to lighten up we got the 2 points and that's all that matters but its not.

another team would have beaten us and we're very lucky Toronto didn't. It was too close after a good first half.

Yes we got the win but in the real world, playing like we did will see us drop more points than we pick up and that's a fact. After a big win Vs Saints and then to back it up with a loss to Wakey and a scrappy win against Toronto is not good enough.

We took the 2 points twice to try and win the game against a team of rejects and championship players. That is absolutely shocking for a team that includes 9 current and ex England internationals, 4 England Kinghts, 1 former England RU International and 2 Tongan Internationals. Absolutely shocking and shows us exactly where we are as far as our attack is being coached.

Yes getting the Win is good but that's short term. looking at the long term this team needs a rocket up its backside or we'll be walking away with nothing (again) this season.

Can you remember any of the names of those involved in the "confrontation of Rodwell".
Do you recognise these names cropping up time & time again on this forum? Were "Karetaker", "Wires71" and the wonderfully named "Moving On" enjoying a "Sit in" ... back in the day?

The game to which SC refers resulted in a throng of about 50-100 fans gathered around the players entrance after the game angrily chanting "if you want our money show your face" directed to the board. The fans demanded action and were livid. We had just lost 7 from 8 at the start of the season.

However the game was against London on 30th April 2002, a Friday night, a game we lost 14-28. We were sitting 12th in the league.

Following that game Plange was appointed and we won against the odds at Hull 19-16 which was our last game at the Boulevard. People forget that it was actually that period under Plange that contributed to our SL survival. And, of course as you will know, this forum did not exist then as we used Wolfweb on which I was a member with the same moniker.

I attended both those games. I did not witness the Rodwell incident.

I was also there for the Castleford game monday night "sit in" 26/5/2008 Round 15 where we managed to lose 28-36 after being 12 points ahead with 20 minutes to go. Interestingly we lost 16-2 to Wakefield a few weeks prior.

I watched Warrington avidly at home and most aways games from about 1978 to 2010, so I am bound to have been at the eventful games.