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| Quote ="clutch"Massive potential, but no way was he MOM. Briers ran the show the first half.'"
Briers runs the show every week. I can't quite believe how good Briers is. Even now at the Autumn of his career, the guy is immense. He's our best player every single week.
For some reason he's not a fashionable player. He got the odd "Briers for Great Britain" comment once or twice a year off Eddie a few years ago and gets the odd comment now and again off Stevo now, but he's criminally underrated. And he's one of the few characters in the game too.
To see the hype and bull$h!t that some players get, constantly, and then to see what Lee does week-in-week-out...
As for Gaz O'B; I'm very very impressed. He's still a bit raw in some areas but I'm excited about his future.
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| Briers was MoM for mine and he is playing as well as ever. Best kicking game in SL bar none.
With GOB his kicking was really aimless and I do wonder if he lacks a yard of pace. Lots more to come from him though and he is learning from an absolute master.
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| Thanks to the OP for their kind words.
I have posted this a number of times before but once more won't hurt.......... Gareth O'Brien is only 20.
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| Quote ="mark_m"I do wonder if he lacks a yard of pace.'"
That's a joke right?
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"So our future spine will be
1 Ratchford
6 O'Brien
7 Myler
9 Dwyer
13 Currie
Happy with that'"
Also take into account the age of others such as Bridge, Atkins, Hill, Grix. Great for the future. What would a team without Codgers look like?
1. Ratchford
2. Riley
3. Atkins
4. Bridge
5. Evans
6. O'Brien
7. Myler
8. Hill
9. Grix
10.Harrison
11.Currie
12.Laithwaite
13.Bateman
14.M.Cooper
15.Dwyer
16.McCarthy
17.J.Cooper
The future is bright.
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| Quote ="adamthespaniel"Quote ="mark_m"I do wonder if he lacks a yard of pace.'"
That's a joke right?'"
Nope he doesn't appear that quick for a half-back especially compared to many currently in SL.
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| Our current number 6 'lacks a yard of pace' and he's done alright for himself.
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| Briers has always made up for that with his anticipation annd reading of the game and GOB needs to develop the same attributes. Players like Brough, McGuire and our own Myler havve the advantage of raw pace.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Nope he doesn't appear that quick for a half-back especially compared to many currently in SL.'"
I'm not gonna complain about his pace if he scores a few more like Friday's with his foot above the line!
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| Quote ="matt_wire"Quote ="mark_m"Nope he doesn't appear that quick for a half-back especially compared to many currently in SL.'"
Good anticipation there, very Joel like in not giving up on the kick.
I'm not gonna complain about his pace if he scores a few more like Friday's with his foot above the line!'"
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| Quote ="matt_wire"Quote ="mark_m"Nope he doesn't appear that quick for a half-back especially compared to many currently in SL.'"
Good anticipation there, very Joel like in not giving up on the kick.
I'm not gonna complain about his pace if he scores a few more like Friday's with his foot above the line!'"
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| Quote ="matt_wire"Quote ="mark_m"Nope he doesn't appear that quick for a half-back especially compared to many currently in SL.'"
Good anticipation there, very Joel like in not giving up on the kick.
I'm not gonna complain about his pace if he scores a few more like Friday's with his foot above the line!'"
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| There are far too many halfbacks in SL with more pace than skill. As many have said, O'Brien looks ready made to fill the hole Briers will leave. His awareness is incredible for a 20 year old, and if he keeps working on his kicking and passing, then he could become a top international, one who could really solve England's woes at 6. World Cup 2013 anyone?
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| Quote ="nw636"There are far too many halfbacks in SL with more pace than skill. As many have said, O'Brien looks ready made to fill the hole Briers will leave. His awareness is incredible for a 20 year old, and if he keeps working on his kicking and passing, then he could become a top international, one who could really solve England's woes at 6. World Cup 2013 anyone?'"
I'd need to see how he MAtches up against Finch or someone of that calibre first. But he is genuine class!
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| Quote ="jdrocket"I'd need to see how he MAtches up against Finch or someone of that calibre first. But he is genuine class!'"
You got a bee in your bonnet at the minute Jd.
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| Just seen the post match interview, I hope he got paid plenty for wearing that bloody cap.
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| And me.
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| Quote ="Bobby Digital"You got a bee in your bonnet at the minute Jd.'"
No, I said I like him.
Want me to also say he is going to be a shoe in for the halfback role at the world cup (next year)? Okay, he is. I would prefer to see him against a genuinely class halfback though before I would feel comfortable seeing him take on Benji Marshall etc.
I'm just being realistic.
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| Quote ="jdrocket" I would prefer to see him against a genuinely class halfback though before I would feel comfortable seeing him take on Benji Marshall etc.
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Well you're not going to see that in Super League as once Finch goes the only genuinely class halfback is Briers.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Well you're not going to see that in Super League as once Finch goes the only genuinely class halfback is Briers.'"
Which is why England have been selecting a slow moving, ageing Loose Forward at stand-off fairly recently. At 20 years old O'Brien has the potential to go all the way, but Smith will look after him. On the return of Myler I think we'll see various combinations of Myler, O'Brien, Briers, and maybe Ratchford.
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| Quote ="nw636"There are far too many halfbacks in SL with more pace than skill. As many have said, O'Brien looks ready made to fill the hole Briers will leave. His awareness is incredible for a 20 year old, and if he keeps working on his kicking and passing, then he could become a top international, one who could really solve England's woes at 6. World Cup 2013 anyone?'"
Sounds like a good idea but with the current coach england would rather pick ageing players past their best or non-english players rather than take a gamble on a player like o'brien the only six that is young that might have a chance is widdop in terms of the 2013 but even he won't get picked ahead of sinfield chase mcguire etc because the coach won't stray away from old heads because he is about as useful as a car with no wheels
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| Quote ="just_browny"O'Brien was much better last night. I've been cautiously impressed with him up to now but expressed concerns that he hasn't been doing enough in a game. Yesterday he had been clearly told to up his involvement (and partnership with Briers) and he certainly showed what he is capable of.'"
I think I would agree with this. Agreed he looks to have fantastic potential because he is only 20, but he has been fairly quiet in a number of games. My list of skills and areas to work on are;
Goal kicking, outstanding
Speed, lacks a yard at the moment
Ball handling and passing, excellent
Understanding of game, very good
Field kicking, needs work
Tackling, needs work but improving fast
Work rate, very good
We should be cautious of being too critical because we see him play with Briers, and compare him with a master. But just imagine what he will be like in 2-3 yrs if he continues to develop !
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Which is why England have been selecting a slow moving, ageing Loose Forward at stand-off fairly recently. At 20 years old O'Brien has the potential to go all the way, but Smith will look after him. On the return of Myler I think we'll see various combinations of Myler, O'Brien, Briers, and maybe Ratchford.'"
With Myler, Ratchford and, eventually, O' Brien (unless Sam Tomkins is moved back forward- if that makes sense), I think we have the best English halves in the league and will do for some time, as all 3 are comfortable there. It feels good doesn't it?
On another note, Chase and Sinfield, in my opinion, should be no where near the halves and I am still unsure/uncertain of Widdop.
I think McBanana should play a younger half in the second Exiles match, unless he wants to against Ireland or someone. Myler deserves a chance, at least.
On a slightly related note, with all things staying the same, will we ever see Ratchford in an England shirt? Tomkins is the prodical son of rugby league and anyone attached the RFL would move hell and high water to make him happy. Plus Ratchford is developing into a fine fullback and will be even better after nother year with Brett and, finally, McBanana doesn't know what a halfback pairing is and wouldn't play a natural there (even though Ratch would technically be out of position there).
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"I think I would agree with this. Agreed he looks to have fantastic potential because he is only 20, but he has been fairly quiet in a number of games. My list of skills and areas to work on are;
Goal kicking, outstanding
Speed, lacks a yard at the moment
Ball handling and passing, excellent
Understanding of game, very good
Field kicking, needs work
=#0000BFTackling, needs work but improving fast
Work rate, very good
We should be cautious of being too critical because we see him play with Briers, and compare him with a master. But just imagine what he will be like in 2-3 yrs if he continues to develop !'"
From what i have seen GOB is good in defence. He gets around the legs well, seen him easily stop far bigger players when they have been running through a gap.
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