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| Quote ="Matt King's kitten"Anyone else notice Bell's 'contact' with Philbin (67 mins) in the build up to Harrison's try? I thought watching from behind the sticks that it looked nasty, but watching it later his fingers are well and truly in contact with Philbin's eyes.
Amazed the MRP have done nothing.'"
I thought so too but there didn't seem to be any histrionics from anyone in the P&B
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"I thought Jiffy was over the top criticising Dufty for the Saints try. The kick was covered by Ashton on the left wing & then it got a wicked bounce. Dufty dropped a high ball in the first half but otherwise he was fine. I do love old Jiffy though & even went to see him & had a chat with him a few years back (he loved his time in Warrington) but I'd give him some stick over that one. The FB cannot be everywhere & has to share duties with his wingers.'"
I thought the criticism of Dufty was fair regarding their try and his fluffed high kick take.
I'm not sure of what happened the play before but Dufty was over the other side of the pitch and should have been at least in line with Lomax.
It was a great kick and I think Lomax played for that bounce. There was no other Wire player in the picture and the area Ashton had to cover was simply too much.
For Ashtons try, even when Makinson was beaten Matty still had a lot to do to get round Welsby. Welsby was in a far better position to support his winger.
Other than that though, Dufty was solid in defence and dangerous in attack. His pass to Williams when falling was sublime.
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| Quote ="Matt King's kitten"Anyone else notice Bell's 'contact' with Philbin (67 mins) in the build up to Harrison's try? I thought watching from behind the sticks that it looked nasty, but watching it later his fingers are well and truly in contact with Philbin's eyes.
Amazed the MRP have done nothing.'"
And what about the off the ball shoulder charge on Williams? Are shoulder charges alright again? Thought that might merit a look, given it was a double whammy!
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| Red vee is hilarious
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| They're not happy with Darryl 'Harry Kane' Clark.
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"Really happy with the win, but lots to work on. In the spell while it was 4-0/6-4 we were under a lot of pressure. Scrambled well, but still leaked a lot of meters. Thankfully Hurrell and Sironen blew chances to put the wingers into space, but it could have been a momentum shift. Instead we rode the wave and found a way to create our own momentum.
We desperately need Vaughan back. Stating the obvious, I know. But when Harrison went off we lost a lot of control. And Philbin too, to his credit.
Hayes did his best kicking from deep, and got us out of trouble a few times. Really like how he has just taken that responsibility on for himself, no hiding behind Williams. He, the club and the academy system should be really proud to see that he is earning his shirt over a time served halfback, who is also taking a quota spot. Still, come the back end of the season, he will have to do a little better to really put teams under pressure. But lots to like from him.
Lee Briers commented in the podcast on the BBC about learning when without players, finding a way to plug the gap and go without them, and then having the boost when they return to go up a gear. I think we need to build up to that, particularly with Currie, Musgrove and Vaughan. Those in the shirts need to (and so far, have) find a way for us to not notice they are missing and make the stars wrestle the shirt off their back. I’d love to see Vaughan sat on the bench at the weekend, reward the efforts of Crowther, Harrison and Philbin and get in his ear about earning his place back, think it would be a great signal to those in possession that they hold the cards if they want to start next week.'"
Crowther is looking a bit weak offensively, crumples when he hits the defensive wall and seems content not making any further metres. Defensively sound most of the time.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Red vee is hilarious
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I particularly loved the post about Warrington being better cheaters than St Helens, who just don't have it in them
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Red vee is hilarious
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I’m tempted to put in a visit to give them some diversion relief.
Then again I’ll just let them sulk some more.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"I particularly loved the post about Warrington being better cheaters than St Helens, who just don't have it in them
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I’m tempted to put in a visit to give them some diversion relief.
Then again I’ll just let them sulk some more.'"
im sure they would appreciate the appearance.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Red vee is hilarious
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Did you go back far enough to read the bit where someone presciently predicts that we will have too much pace for them, only for it to be laughed out of town by FearTheVee..
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Red vee is hilarious
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So much e on redvee it's incredible.
Lomax and Dodd coming in for lots of stick.
Blake, Bennison, Clark, Walmsley get a fair bit of stick too .as does Wellens.
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| Quote ="just_browny"Did you go back far enough to read the bit where someone presciently predicts that we will have too much pace for them, only for it to be laughed out of town by FearTheVee..'"
i read it all from the start... best bit about that, was that he got laughed out of town... and it was the exact way we beat them haha
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| That Brian Nazareth is horrible. Pure bile.
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| Quote ="Matt King's kitten"Anyone else notice Bell's 'contact' with Philbin (67 mins) in the build up to Harrison's try? I thought watching from behind the sticks that it looked nasty, but watching it later his fingers are well and truly in contact with Philbin's eyes.
Amazed the MRP have done nothing.'"
It also looked like Welsby went for the eyes when he scored.
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| I'm still laughing at the delusion on redvee. They (mostly) refuse to give us any credit and a lot of them are willing to blame Wellens' setup, and naming and shaming individual players. They were world beaters on Good Friday but two weeks later they apparently need a full clear out before it becomes the second coming of the cunningham era. The knee jerk reaction is like that of a spoiled child that hasn't got what it usually expects. That crowd* was awful for a big cup game, zero reaction or motivation came from their supporters, so I can agree with the ones who note there's a growing disconnect between the players and the fans.
Back to us, overall I said I'd have been happy with us just giving them a good game, but the truth is we nullified everything they had in their nal. Actually in the Challenge Cup thread I did say we'd batter them! It will be very interested to see how we go about Saturday now, surely big Sam has got it drummed into them not to get cocky or complacent. Just really pleased with all the green shoots at the moment, but agree with others that we ought not to get too carried away.
*My rewatch was even more enjoyable hearing them cheer every tackle around the 45th minute, as if it was the 75th minute and they'd caned us defensively all through the half. Frightening arrogance that came back to well and truly bite them.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Do you remember the "Ryan Air" moment?'"
Im still trying to forget it!!
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| Quote ="Matt King's kitten"Anyone else notice Bell's 'contact' with Philbin (67 mins) in the build up to Harrison's try? I thought watching from behind the sticks that it looked nasty, but watching it later his fingers are well and truly in contact with Philbin's eyes.
Amazed the MRP have done nothing.'"
I saw it at the time and was amazed none of the commentators did - surely its worthy of a review?
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| Quote ="Paullie"I saw it at the time and was amazed none of the commentators did - surely its worthy of a review?'"
They were too busy commenting on Welsby's dummy that he spat out at Fitzgibbon, after being trapped in goal.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Red vee is hilarious
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It's interesting to read who is copping it hardest in the Saints fans' blame game. Wellens is under increasing fire for their boring style of play, whilst both Makinson and Lomax are now regarded as past-it and ready for the scrapheap by several of the more rabid observers. Most of the vitriol, though, seems to be aimed at their fresh-faced and butter-fingered left winger - the esteemed Romantic poet and peer of the realm Alfred, Lord Bennison - who must henceforth carry the shame and ignominy of being rated as worse than Tee Ritson.
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| Can't get on redvee for some reason..was wondering as it been taken down cos they've been walloped again
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"They're not happy with Darryl 'Harry Kane' Clark.'"
Did the incident on the Saints pre season training camp involving Clark ever become public knowledge ?
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| Quote ="Abe Froman"Did the incident on the Saints pre season training camp involving Clark ever become public knowledge ?'"
Do you know something?
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| Quote ="Abe Froman"Did the incident on the Saints pre season training camp involving Clark ever become public knowledge ?'"
I recall hearing that Clark had a major bust-up with Hurrell, when Clark made a joke about religion that deeply offended Hurrell.
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