I'd say it's a 50:50. We're without Coote, Makinson and Roby. You're missing Widdop and Hill.

I'd say we're a better side, but we're missing an extra player and you're at home so that balances things well.

There's going to be 3,000 from St Helens there, presume the game will be close to selling out which would be good for a Thursday game.

Pretty sure it will not sell out; its on Thursday and available to watch on TV I believe. Perhaps 14k ?

Saints are at peak minus long term injured. They've had to peak for the world club challenge....we rarely if ever beaten a team in it, ahead of the game from memory.

So history tells us a Saints win....if Wire win Thurs...Wire will win every piece of silverware on offer.

What does history tell us about the track record of duckie's predictions?

Pretty good last season.

You were missing Coote and Roby at Wembley, so you could be correct.

Sad getting a weak excuse in early.

It's not an excuse, we're perfectly capable of beating Warrington with 6 or 7 missing if we play well. You're also capable of beating us if we were full strength if we don't.

I'm hopeful of a win, but wouldn't be a massive surprise if we didn't.

Oh, Jack Hughes is playing for us tomorrow night is he?

Ah well, that`s one less interchange for us then.

Thanks for the heads up.

He's terrible anyway.

What's up with him? I hadn't noticed he was out.

I know on the day anything can happen but being realistic I expect us to be 4 points behind saints on the leader board after 2 games. I don't think we will see this saints team put the ball on the floor like they did at Wembley. We played well that day but that was a one off for saints. If Ashton plays full back I can see Saints putting him under far more pressure than Wigan did. The encouraging things from last week were we looked like we enjoyed defending (as much as you can enjoy defending) evidenced by a few short drop outs, they were far from percentage plays. We have realised that we need to back up every time clark and Walker look like they are about jump out of DH and we were offloading like the first few games of last season. If we do lose then i hope that doesn't knock the confidence as it wouldn't take much to end up like we were in the last few months of last season.

He has had surgery for a double hernia caused by having Jonny Lomax in his pocket for the full 80 minutes at Wembley last year.

To bet the other way, he's like an inverse Nostradamus.

Where did you finish in the tipping comp?

Quote ="rubber duckie"Where did you finish in the tipping comp?'" Didn't enter and I don't gamble. I know I have no special skill at it and couldn't bare the embarrassment of making bold claims and looking foolish afterwards. To claim that Warrington will win all before them if we beat Saints tonight is a little daft in my opinion, and I suspect the opinion of most other readers. Or are you like these pro-gambler guys living in a penthouse https://thetab.com/2015/11/06/we-made-4 ... ndon-60967

Quote ="rubber duckie"Where did you finish in the tipping comp?'" Didn't enter and I don't gamble. I know I have no special skill at it and couldn't bare the embarrassment of making bold claims and looking foolish afterwards. To claim that Warrington will win all before them if we beat Saints tonight is a little daft in my opinion, and I suspect the opinion of most other readers. Or are you like these pro-gambler guys living in a penthouse https://thetab.com/2015/11/06/we-made-4 ... ndon-60967

The thing with RD is you can’t totally dismiss him out of hand as he does have flashes of insight...as well as getting it very wrong. Credit where it’s due, he certainly isn’t scared to put his head on the block (which is very brave for a duck, rubber or otherwise).

A broken clock is right twice a day, but yes RD is good fun. I just wish that if he has made millions from betting that he could share his tips on here.

Longbarn Wire is where it's at for insight though. He has told us of many signings before they were announced. He is well connected.

Probably should have had it before the play-off defeat at home to Cas then. Hopefully he was able to watch Lomax lift the far more important SL trophy from the physio table.



Looking forward to tonight, should be a cracker with an atmosphere to match. Can't really call it, depends what version of Wire tunrs up.

No, he doesn't. He just predicts you'll win everything every time. With you spending more than any club on players since Moran arrived, it's inevitable that you'll eventually win something. If you do win SL this season people will claim he foresaw in, but in reality he predicted that for the last few years too.

The only way I'll be impressed is if you win the treble without losing a single game, which he's also predicted.

Since Moran arrived at Warrington their silverware haul has increased substantially so that statements a little unfair
Its a bit like saying because Saints have changed their coach 7 times since they last won the Challenge cup its inevitable that one of them will eventually win it

And what hard facts are you basing this on?

2 totally separate issues. And I stand by my point about RD, some of his posts are sheer wind up, but he does have insight on occasion into opposition teams, it’s possible they are on the very rare occasion when you aren’t on this board I suppose.

No I haven't.

Still touchy over wire thrashing you boys at Wembley... Be careful you don't trip over your lip