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| Quote ="Saddened!"Not really. I suspect I'm like most Saints fans in that I believe Austin is going to play. If he doesn't it'll be a pleasant surprise for us. You wouldn't be playing mind games to this extent if there wasn't even a possibility because everyone in the sport will know once it's been decided. Players talk to each other, particularly the Kiwi/Aussie contingent. Saints will have considered each eventuality anyway, there isn't going to be anyone surprised by your lineup, unless you do something odd.'"
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Reminds me of this:
Price: Really, Hendo? A cunning and subtle one?
Hendo: Yes, sir.
Price: As cunning as a fox who’s just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University?
Hendo: Yes, sir.
Voice: On the signal, company will advance!
Price: Well, I’m afraid it’ll have to wait. Whatever it was, I’m sure it was better than my plan to get out of this by pretending to be mad. I mean, who would have noticed another madman round here?'"
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| I imagine because he Price wants to keep whoever is playing next to Patton a secret. Not like it'll matters but at the moment Saints (and us) have no idea what our team will be.
Makes it harder for Saints to plan.
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| Quote ="Jack Napier"I imagine because he Price wants to keep whoever is playing next to Patton a secret. Not like it'll matters but at the moment Saints (and us) have no idea what our team will be.
Makes it harder for Saints to plan.'"
I know us fans have banter. But I assume that the plan for saints will be the same no matter who plays.
There is an element of play what is in front of you. No point continuing to kick to one player, if another shows a weakness on the day.
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| Not really. They're fitter and faster than us and will nullify any scenario we play by the second half. First half i imagine will be close.
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| Unless of course food poisoning sweeps through the saints camp
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| Or a freak hurricane.
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| God forbid they just don't want the media there asking the players questions all morning/afternoon so they can just focus on the game, always has to be a conspiracy.
And maybe Austin just isn't ready and they're saving him for a grand final push, and it's not mind games.
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| Quote ="Or thane"God forbid they just don't want the media there asking the players questions all morning/afternoon so they can just focus on the game, always has to be a conspiracy.
And maybe Austin just isn't ready and they're saving him for a grand final push, and it's not mind games.'"
Exactly. Makes me laugh how much saints are building us up, we have lost the last 5 games in appalling fashion. They're building us up to make their win bigger or their loss a bit more palatable. They're massive favourites, if we win it will be a huge upset, we have good players on paper but we have an abysmal playing style that makes good players look like amateurs. I don't give us a prayer, it's saints to lose and they know it!
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| Quote ="CW8"Exactly. Makes me laugh how much saints are building us up, we have lost the last 5 games in appalling fashion. They're building us up to make their win bigger or their loss a bit more palatable. They're massive favourites, if we win it will be a huge upset, we have good players on paper but we have an abysmal playing style that makes good players look like amateurs. I don't give us a prayer, it's saints to lose and they know it!'"
Massive favourites.
1st v 2nd.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Massive favourites.
1st v 2nd.'"
Stop saying this FFS. The gap in points nullifies this line of thinking. We’ve been garbage for weeks and you know it as much as we do, or evidently you don’t. Of course you’re massive favourites. It’s not like you’re only ahead on points difference. Your lot like crowing how bad we are and how we’re equidistant from the bottom and the top... until it suddenly doesn’t suit your agenda.
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| Quote ="matt_wire"Stop saying this FFS. The gap in points nullifies this line of thinking. We’ve been garbage for weeks and you know it as much as we do, or evidently you don’t. Of course you’re massive favourites. It’s not like you’re only ahead on points difference. Your lot like crowing how bad we are and how we’re equidistant from the bottom and the top... until it suddenly doesn’t suit your agenda.'"
My point is it depends on your definition of massive.
We are firm favourites, but I don't think you can equate this final to the Wigan Sheffield final.
I would say it is more like when leeds played Cas in 2014.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"My point is it depends on your definition of massive.
We are firm favourites, but I don't think you can equate this final to the Wigan Sheffield final.
I would say it is more like when leeds played Cas in 2014.'"
£10 on Saints gets you £13.30 back
£10 on Warrington gets you £40 back
Massive favourites.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Massive favourites.
1st v 2nd.'"
Am I wrong? Does 1st v 2nd accurately tell the story? Deep down you know you're big favourites. On the form guide for the last 5 games we are bottom of the list!
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| Quote ="CW8"Exactly. Makes me laugh how much saints are building us up, we have lost the last 5 games in appalling fashion. They're building us up to make their win bigger or their loss a bit more palatable. They're massive favourites, if we win it will be a huge upset, we have good players on paper but we have an abysmal playing style that makes good players look like amateurs. I don't give us a prayer, it's saints to lose and they know it!'"
The Saints fans are right, look at both semi finals last year. Saints were massive favourites then but Catalans and Warrington won, its a one off game that is 60/40 in Saints favour at the most. If anything, what you accuse Saints fans of doing Wire fans are doing far more. Making Saints out to be huge favourites so that if you lose you’ll pretend to not be bothered because you expected to lose (even though you’ll be gutted really) but if you win you’ll all be calling it the greatest shock of all time and how Saints are bottlers.
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| Quote ="matt_wire"If this is to keep up the ‘will he, won’t he?’ bluff, then it’s embarrassing. Blake already mentioned on social media that he isn’t playing. One of the mouth-breathers on redvee saying it makes us look small time, and for once I agree.
Though if he [iwas[/i to play, I would love it just because that lot will explode with incredulity and go all indignant, “it’s a mockery of the rules... he even [isaid[/i he wasn’t playing”, etc.
But it all looks a little desperate from here, whatever the motive.
Edit: redvee bemoaning the ban, one guy saying he’s “desperate to put them (us) back in their box”.
... I hope we shock a few people (I know we won’t!) just for that comment alone. Horrible arrogant bunch, the lot of them.'"
Embarrassing?
Give your head a wobbly. It's fantastic media.
Keep me guessing.
Radlinski and Connolly both played on their days and had wow games off the operation recovery bed that morning.
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| Quote ="MPhil12"The Saints fans are right, look at both semi finals last year. Saints were massive favourites then but Catalans and Warrington won, its a one off game that is 60/40 in Saints favour at the most. If anything, what you accuse Saints fans of doing Wire fans are doing far more. Making Saints out to be huge favourites so that if you lose you’ll pretend to not be bothered because you expected to lose (even though you’ll be gutted really) but if you win you’ll all be calling it the greatest shock of all time and how Saints are bottlers.'"
Have you been watching us recently? We wouldn't beat widnes tomorrow playing the way we have been, never mind saints. I won't be bothered, I genuinely don't think we have a hope in hell. They've beaten us easily 3 times this season and we are playing with worse than we were for the first 2. It would take a massive step forward from us to have a genuine chance. It's not beyond us, but it's not likely. Revisit this tomorrow and see what you think. We have nothing to lose, it's saints trophy unless they blow it.
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| Quote ="CW8"Have you been watching us recently? We wouldn't beat widnes tomorrow playing the way we have been, never mind saints. I won't be bothered, I genuinely don't think we have a hope in hell. They've beaten us easily 3 times this season and we are playing with worse than we were for the first 2. It would take a massive step forward from us to have a genuine chance. It's not beyond us, but it's not likely. Revisit this tomorrow and see what you think. We have nothing to lose, it's saints trophy unless they blow it.'"
No they didn't. In the last game there was nothing in it until Coops got 10 min
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| maybe the club dont want them to see the big secret about currie playing 6 and us trying to gain an advantage in the forwards with an extra man.
because that has been on this forum all week.
so it deffo cant be for that.... obviously.
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| I've heard detailed plans have been drawn up to pass to a winger.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I've heard detailed plans have been drawn up to pass to a winger.'"
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| Quote ="Wires71"I've heard detailed plans have been drawn up to pass to a winger.'"
Makes a difference from constantly kicking to a centre.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I've heard detailed plans have been drawn up to pass to a winger.'"
That along with the cunning plan on letting the forwards get us off our line in the first 10/15min.
Reality is they didn't want the team to be seemingly dancing around a rugby ball chanting and waving like loonies
I don't think we're massive underdogs like Sheffield Wigan but it will be a huge suprise if we are lifting the trophy tomorrow.
A lot would have to go our way. We've players that have been in tjis situation before saints not so much recently, that's our main advantage the longer we stay in it the more it will play on their minds. We must make any error pay with points a repeat set or at least good territory and pinning them in their 20 for a few tackles.
If our team plays well tomorrow and we can maintain the intensity needed for the 80 I can see how we could win but that's a lot of ifs and buts. I hope we can come out on tops I'm jot sure if the winning the trophy or the meltdown on redvee lol
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| Quote ="Wires71"I've heard detailed plans have been drawn up to pass to a winger.'"
Fake News
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