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| it was cullen who suggested wolves due to the fact it was on the towns crest
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| i know it's not in keeping with the 'brand' of warrington wolves, but it would be nice if the club would do a retro merchandise line using that logo/crest, the old wolf head surrounded by the barb wire, you still see some people wearing some of the baseball jackets and bench coats (syd packer i'm talking about you) and some of the old style caps, it's a good logo. And a possible alternate design me walking about wearing stuff with a little blue and yellow triangle all the time.
I would imagine a lot of the old school early 90's supporters would jump all over these. IIRC it had WARRINGTON with RLFC underneath it, wouldn't take a huge amount of effort to change that to WOLVES.
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| The wolf is taken from the Warrington Coat of Arms. The reason it was used in relation to the Wire is that the wolf was known to have roamed around the Wilderspool area.
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"i know it's not in keeping with the 'brand' of warrington wolves, but it would be nice if the club would do a retro merchandise line using that logo/crest, the old wolf head surrounded by the barb wire, you still see some people wearing some of the baseball jackets and bench coats (syd packer i'm talking about you) and some of the old style caps, it's a good logo. And a possible alternate design me walking about wearing stuff with a little blue and yellow triangle all the time.
I would imagine a lot of the old school early 90's supporters would jump all over these. IIRC it had WARRINGTON with RLFC underneath it, wouldn't take a huge amount of effort to change that to WOLVES.'"
Thats a good idea why not e-mail the club? Wouldn't like to see the old badge changed but a limited range of retro merchandise running alongside the existing kit would be great.
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| It was Cull who came up with the Wolves part, but i believe it was only noticed afterwards about the wolf on the town crest
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"i know it's not in keeping with the 'brand' of warrington wolves, but it would be nice if the club would do a retro merchandise line using that logo/crest, the old wolf head surrounded by the barb wire,
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We've dealt with the 'Wolves' thing many times. Copyright can't be claimed in 'Wire, Wires, Wire-pullers' or anything so public-domain so if the club wants to maximise benefit from ads, sponsorship and merchandise they need a new logo/identity, hence Wolves. Legally its also probably not a good idea to market more than one 'official logo' - like the previous wolf head design, as this could be used by counterfeiters to claim that there is 'confusion in the public mind' as to the copyright status of 'insignia' and goodwill associated with the club.
All technical stuff, but vital to protect revenue, and we all want the club to maximise this, don't we?
An occasional foray into the past - such as the retro shirts - does not damage your rights, but you have to be careful because there are some right villains out there.
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| Quote ="Natters"For me Warrington RLFC will always be The Wire and the 'Wolves' will just be a cheap gimmick brought about by Sky TV.'"
Agreed. I absolutely hate it.
Fair enough the gimmick worked for Bradford Bulls and Leeds Rhinos - their fans do seem to like it - but I have NEVER heard a chant of "Come on you Wolves" or anything similar from our fans and I hope I never do. The only place in England I'd expect to hear that is Molineux (or a Wolverhampton Wanderers away end at another ground for the pedants!)
We are Warrington RLFC and our nickname is The Wire.
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| The kids supporters club was called the Wolf Pack long before the super league era so not sure if PC should be getting the credit.
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| Quote ="Langer7"The kids supporters club was called the Wolf Pack long before the super league era so not sure if PC should be getting the credit.'" Wasn't that when PC was doubling up in a role as commercial manager though? Think it was the early 90's.
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| I always refer to Warrington as Wire/Wires, as well as Northern for Bradford. Its something i've always done. Not keen on the Americanism of team names.
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| Don't like the name Wolves, but at least its one of the better ones. Some of them like Wildcats and Giants sound ridiculous.
Traditional names like Hull FC, Hull KR and Saints are the best.
Will always be 'The Wire' for me anyway.
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| Quote ="Big Ask"At the birth of Superleague where did the name Wolves come from, and were there any other alternative contenders at the time?'"
Warrington Widgers was an option I believe, however the Super League said there was already one team of bell ends in Wigan so we had to leave that one alone.
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"Agreed. I absolutely hate it.
Fair enough the gimmick worked for Bradford Bulls and Leeds Rhinos - their fans do seem to like it - but I have NEVER heard a chant of "Come on you Wolves" or anything similar from our fans and I hope I never do. '"
I heard it once.
Cas away, think it was at the end of the 2001 season....some bloke must have got into the PA system box and goes "come onnn you Wooolves" which blasted out over the tannoy.
One of the most random things to happen at a Warrington match....if you're going to crash the DJ box, what a random thing to shout!
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"I heard it once.
Cas away, think it was at the end of the 2001 season....some bloke must have got into the PA system box and goes "come onnn you Wooolves" which blasted out over the tannoy.
One of the most random things to happen at a Warrington match....if you're going to crash the DJ box, what a random thing to shout!'"
Agreed.
I think I'd go with ...
Whick whick whick pew, whickawhick whick whick. (Rap scratches)
"Peace."
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| On the basis that the Wire are named after a major, but now defunct industry, what would we be called if we were re-named after the current dominant industry within the town?
The "Warrington Office Blocks" maybe?
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| Quote ="silver2"On the basis that the Wire are named after a major, but now defunct industry, what would we be called if we were re-named after the current dominant industry within the town?
The "Warrington Office Blocks" maybe?'"
Dominant industry............will have to be the "Warrington Shitpubs".
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| It was definately Cull that introduced the Wolves bit, initially it was the 'Wire Wolves.' Maybe someone should ask him how it came about. Will always be the Wire for me though.
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| i think you'll find warrington town fc have copy writed the nickname the wire, it was only recent but my uncles on the board there and was made up when they got it
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| No point really, what's the point of calling them 'Town' then?
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| not a clue told him when the did it, it was a waist and would'nt catch on
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| In response to Mr Catsmith, when have Warrington ever been good at making good marketing decisions ?
We need to employ a seriously poop hot marketing department.
Posters and billboards in town.
Competitions for the locals away from matchday.
Promotions.
Events, again away from matchday
Sponsor events
Summer/training schools
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Better/more varied merchandise
i'd rather Moran invest his money in the above than Moi Moi
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| Quote ="Black Sheep"i think you'll find warrington town fc have copy writed the nickname the wire, it was only recent but my uncles on the board there and was made up when they got it'" Sorry mate, but tell your uncle his money has gone down the drain.
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| I thought Warrington Town were known as "Yellows"?
I presume by copywriting the name "Wire" that means the RL club cannot use it on any merchandise and must stick exclusively to Wolves? That's not right at all in my opinion.
No disrespect to Town as I don't mind non league football at all but growing up in Warrington I didn't even know where Cantilever Park was until I was in my teens and I've never seen a single person walking around Warrington wearing one of their shirts, scarves or whatever. Everyone in Warrington who likes football supports a Liverpool or Manchester club (although seeing a few Chelsea and Arsenal shirts in the town now makes me sick) so I don't see how a grass roots side earn themselves any good will by effectively stealing the nickname of the only professional sports club we have.
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| As the big headline on our Programme this season has been THE WIRE, I don't think that Town have copyrighted the name. There's only one Wire and only ever will be one.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"In response to Mr Catsmith, when have Warrington ever been good at making good marketing decisions ?
We need to employ a seriously poop hot marketing department.
Posters and billboards in town.
Competitions for the locals away from matchday.
Promotions.
Events, again away from matchday
Sponsor events
Summer/training schools
School/College events
Better/more varied merchandise
i'd rather Moran invest his money in the above than Moi Moi'"
tell me why Moran has got to fund this, don't you think he done enough for this club. lets get more fans to the games and try and take it from there
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