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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"What a bloody disgrace it is that kids like Bobby Goulding have been snatched from right under our noses.
We should really employ a talent scout, y'know. Someone should write to the club.'"
I thought we did sign him earlier this season??
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| Quote ="Big Ask"Eastmond and Westerman.
Both not the finished article, but why not build a team around two players that are likely to be two of the top English players over the next 6-8 years.'"
Agree, though it could be hard to prise Eastmond away from Saints.
IMO the 2 players we should be targetting are Westerman and Myler. Both play for smaller clubs, and are more likely to sign for us.
In a couple of years Ainscough and Tomkins could be worth a look, if we can beat Huddersfield to their signature.
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| We prised Briers away from Saints at a similar stage in his career.
What about Paul Sykes as a potential replacement for Gleeson in the centres, can also play fullback wing or even stand-off as he has done for London and Bradford in the past, and is a goal kicker.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"We prised Briers away from Saints at a similar stage in his career.
What about Paul Sykes as a potential replacement for Gleeson in the centres, can also play fullback wing or even stand-off as he has done for London and Bradford in the past, and is a goal kicker.'"
No thanks, Sykes has been proved to be distinctly average at the Bulls.
Also me thinks Saints shipped Briers out early as they knew he may be more trouble than a bag of frogs.
Dont expect them to offload any current talent unless they are either no good or have problems.
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| Louis McCrthy-Scarsrook, Michael Shenton, Peter Fox and Michael Lawrence are the type of British targets we should look at IMO.
Best young english halfback is Myler but i believe he will be reluctant to leave Salford for a few years.....
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"We prised Briers away from Saints at a similar stage in his career. '"
How did you come to this conclusion
Briers spat his dummy out over Bobby Goulding being picked instead oh him, St.Helens then got rid because they knew he was trouble.
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| Quote ="Wedge>Anderson"Louis McCrthy-Scarsrook, Michael Shenton, Peter Fox and Michael Lawrence are the type of British targets we should look at IMO.
Best young english halfback is Myler but i believe he will be reluctant to leave Salford for a few years.....'"
I'd go along with that list as well as adding Joe Westerman to that list of possible transfer targets
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| Would'nt you just love Tony Puletua in your squad though
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| Quote ="Wedge>Anderson"Louis McCrthy-Scarsrook, Michael Shenton, Peter Fox and Michael Lawrence are the type of British targets we should look at IMO.
Best young english halfback is Myler but i believe he will be reluctant to leave Salford for a few years.....'"
They'll all do as well. Money talks and better throwing some at some young lads for a change.
Paul Sykes, no.
Eric Sykes - maybe
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| Quote ="gibo"I'd go along with that list as well as adding Joe Westerman to that list of possible transfer targets'"
Westerman is also potentially a great player but not sure I can see him taking the trip across the Pennines to ourselves. Much more likely to stay at Cas or go to Leeds when the money comes offering in! But we should definitely have a go hey?
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| Quote ="Rommel"Would'nt you just love Tony Puletua in your squad though
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Too old.
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| Quote ="Rommel"Would'nt you just love Tony Puletua in your squad though
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No, from what ive seen he is no great shakes.
Reminds me a bit of tony tatupu that we had a few years back.
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| i wouldn't mind seeing us having Shenton and McCarth-Scarsbrook. we need a centre and also a forward for when Rah retires so therefore i can see us trying to get McCarthy-Scarsbrook if the board look at young English players. however, as much as i'd like to see Myler, Fox, Westerman and Shenton at the HJ i don't know if they will come across the penines bar Myler who will probably stay at Salford for a couple more years
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| Quote ="RL Lover"No, from what ive seen he is no great shakes.
Reminds me a bit of tony tatupu that we had a few years back.'"
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| Quote ="Rocky Bobby"Deluded, utterly deluded....'"
What...so lets guess...you think he is world class dont you?
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| Tried to put together a young, English 1-13 of potential transfer targets! Just on the games I have seen may have missed out others but nonetheless here it goes:
1. Richard Owen
2. Peter Fox
3. Michael Shenton
4. Michael Lawerence
5. Leroy Cudjoe
6. Sam Tomkins
7. Richie Myler
8. LMS
9. Scott Moore
10. Sam Burgess (Not a good season but the potential is still there)
11. Luke Adamson
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13. Joe Westerman
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| Quote ="RL Lover"What...so lets guess...you think he is world class dont you?'"
He's up there, yes. And he's just getting into form now gelling with a great team. To compare him to Tatupu is ridiculous - the only similarity is the physical build. I'm wasting my breath here. Keep dreaming kiddo.
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| Not sure what people have got against Paul Sykes, up till recently everybody was saying that he's the type of player who should get a shot at international level rather than same old faces of Senior, Gleeson etc. Tony Smith rates him anyway.
Tony Clubb is another worth a mention as a younger option.
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| I would really like Myler and Westerman. Westerman can kick goals although i am not sure how well.
I'll go along with all the hype surrounding Shenton, so i'll have him too. Same with Atkins
However said Sykes - You are Sykes agent and I claim my ten pounds (or has someone slapped you silly)
May as well have Graham, Roby and Eastmond too
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| The problem when you sign good "young" players from other clubs is that they are coming to you because of the premium you pay on wages compared to what you pay players developed "in-house" eg incentive to move.
To be honest I do not think we have the need to look outside of the club for young talent at the moment.
Although Tony Clubb is a good call.
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| Quote ="Rocky Bobby"Deluded, utterly deluded....'"
Exactly. Tatupu had the odd moment, like that home win over Wigan but generally not in the same class as Puletua who has been the best forward in Super League so far this year IMO.
Like your sig by the way, one of the funniest shows on TV...
The Rhyme-nocerous and HipHop-apotamous. Genius.
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| Puletua is indeed a big unit but IMO i dont think he is anything other than decent.
If you have other opinions of him then thats great.
Lets not get over excited about it tho
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| Quote ="FireWire"Exactly. Tatupu had the odd moment, like that home win over Wigan but generally not in the same class as Puletua who has been the best forward in Super League so far this year IMO.
Like your sig by the way, one of the funniest shows on TV...
The Rhyme-nocerous and HipHop-apotamous. Genius.'"
Tatupu had oodles of talent. Unfortunately, he had much more can'tbed.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"The problem when you sign good "young" players from other clubs is that they are coming to you because of the premium you pay on wages compared to what you pay players developed "in-house" eg incentive to move.
To be honest I do not think we have the need to look outside of the club for young talent at the moment.
Although Tony Clubb is a good call.'"
Surely you pay the market rate, the influencing factor is going to be on whether the player is at or going to a club where he fancies his chances of winning trophies and enhancing his international aspirations.
Eg Saints Academy player comes through the ranks, plays in the first team, offered a new contract on £45000 a year. Warrington offer £50000 a year, he probably says no whats the point. Warrington offer £65000 a year, maybe he's tempted. He comes when we offer him £75000.
Reverse situation, Warrington Academy player comes through the ranks, plays in the first team, offered a contract on £45000 a year. Saints offer to match it at £45000 a year and promise him first team action. Do Saints need to offer a premium because he's not trained 'in house', or does he say cheers for the memories guys, I'm off to get some medals.
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| For most players I think money is important, medals and trophies probably come second.
If Wire offered a player £100k a year and saints offered the same player £70k a year Im sure you would see him running out in the P&B.
However, if saints offered £90-95K per year it may be a different story.
ie, it will be the whole package that the player looks at with money being one of the key factors.
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