Exactly, when did a physical offence become less of an offence than verbal abuse?

He broke my doll first!!!

nothing, and you'd think by now that ablett would learn that winding players up by being a wasp doesn't pay anymore, so he'd best pack in doing it.

Always the victims.

Was hardly a headbutt.

And as for a professional like JP to react like that and punch a much smaller, part-time player repeatedly with such malice. He deserves the ban more than Sarsfield.

As said above:

Always the victim.

The *apology* from Hardaker was laughable. Reading the form of words which was used it's unbelievable that those words came from the lips of Hardaker himself...It was more of a damage limitation by the Leeds club formulated by a member of the legal profession.

To be fair to Briers , he did owe Abbo one after Carl trampled him into the Old Trafford turf on his way to another grand final try and winners ring

Both got pats on the back, but were also called plonkers, for not hitting the carthorse harder (and I couldn't give less than one For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge about how many GF winner's rings he's got, he's still a carthorse)

Well Peacock got the same as Lee and Woody, however Hardaker has just been given a nice 5 game rest.

Anyone who thinks Ablett is a carthorse knows very little about R.L

I think RL isn't for you. Have you considered crown green bowls?
Forgive me if I don't take seriously some of the recommended punishments for Zak coming from people who hero-worship a person who engages in bestiality. Somewhere your values got screwed up!

Engages?


You mean you have seen him and he's still doing it? Why that's outrageous I'm going to email the club and register my displeasure and disgust.


I have two questions for you though, one have you reported it to the police if you've seen him doing it again.

Two, what were yoi doing there watching this going on?

'Engages' ?

Do you know something we dont?

What's the validity of that apology (to Monaghan) when the independent findings state:

"The tribunal accepted that the player is not homophobic but were satisfied that the remarks were made to the match official"

So did he get any extra ban for getting a carefully crafted apology drawn up that was now found to be b*ll

Or, just a prepared statement from someone who had a few days to think about it?

So if Monaghan bothers you, what you're saying is Hardaker should face a similar treatment?

Do we deregister him and kick him out the league then?
Bit harsh but if Leeds fans want that, we can do that.

I think you are missing my point, i was trying to highlight that if you call somebody a name you get a more severe punishment for it than smashing them in the face.

It not just calling them a name GN. If you seriously think that be very careful what you may say in public. The there is an unwritten agreement sport is granted the police to police itself that saved ZH from being prosecution.

He could quite easily be charged and also players who hit or end another players career or in extreme cases their life!

So you are saying verbal is worse than physical assualt?

in ZH choice of v-a there is a very stiff penalty legally for that.
The law doesn't take racial or homophobic comments lightly.

I haven't looked into the severity of ABH v homophobic slur. But there is a case to answer that a mental effect could be worst that a physical assault.

The lad got five games, he's accepted it. End of matter. Thread needs locking as we're getting nowhere.

And the law accepts physical violence? if people think that a verbal slur is worse than a physical attack then they need to realign their perespective.

You've tried to make you're dull trolling point about 5 times now... it might be time to give up.

Physical violence in the context of rugby presents some difficulties... not least the time honoured tradition of 'handbags' or 'a bit of biff'. It is a sport where hitting big is lauded as much as points on the board.

Personally I don't like it - I would be more than happy to throw bans at neanderthal idiots who can't play the sport without raising their fists... let the refs do their jobs and punish foul play where they see it.

Homophobic comments, just as racist comments are different because they have no place in the sport. Respect for competitors and officials is and should be at the heart of all sport.

I find it astonoshing that people are offended by homophobic or racial insults but saying nothing if someone was called a ginger c!!t, that only certain members of society are offended and they need protecting, to think others shouldn't be to concerned about being verbally abused is deiscrimination itself! then go on to place that verbal abuse worse than physical violence! crazy people!

Ok... you've lost me on that tangent.