I often wonder if you actually watch the games enough to understand, or whether you are just a bait merchant.

Your theory here is that, to counter one player, two of your best forwards were allocated to him? But at the same time Vaughan wasn’t effective? That makes zero sense. Rugby league is a simple game of number manipulation, a better team would have exploited that (we already did, you were obviously short on multiple occasions, particularly on your right). Vaughan did his bit.

Maybe that was in part because the rest of your pack was focussed on Vaughan, as you admit? Vaughan inevitably attracts attention because he is effective, but that should give others more scope.

Our problem of late has been that, Bullock aside, no-one else has stepped up.

If we carry this same performance into the Wigan game except not losing then fine. Let’s keep judgement till that.

What are we going to discuss all week, then?

Anyone know what Amos Brierley is up to in Emmerdale these days?

Kind of strange to see the content over this performance. Yes, it was a huge marked improvement, but all it does for me is make me even madder that they have had that in them but chose to clap crap in their hands for the past 2 months instead. Made mugs out of themselves and all the people paying to watch it. The only ones during that period who I've no qualms with are Ashton, Thewlis, Bullock and Walker. Maybe Clark too. Ratchford I can see is trying, he's in for the cause, but he's past it. He never beats that last man to break away.

The rest been taking the michael.

Hoping to keep his job as coach of Woolpack Wolves long enough, that he'll be in charge at the much anticipated derby with the Malt Shovels Saints.

Nay, Mr Wilkes

Spot on. Granted it was an improvement on the past five weeks but some of our fans on here think you should get trophies for just competing nowadays.

Cheer up LTS ... please. There has to something you like at Wire or in life in general? Perhaps rugby is not your sport.

I do enjoy winding you up to be fair.

I thought you might? You have annoyed a few recently.
Have you ever played the wonderful game or jumped into a bath with 30 odd muddy blokes (mind you that is a different question.) Just answer the first one.

I'd believe that a lot more if it wasn't so obvious that you are the one getting wound up by the team's performances (or lack of)...

Oh no not the have you ever played the game card? I know plenty of ex players/pros/coaches and a fair few talk utter garbage about the game. I know a well respected scout (who also played to a decent level) he still prattles on about how Sam Tomkins is rubbish and always was. Luckily he’s not the scout for Warrington.

...and you ratti ... did you play, coach or ref.
It does help honestly. You would just not be so critical.

All 3. You mouth?

Sorry ratti ... don't understand "You mouth".

I always love it when someone comes out with the garbage, ‘have you ever played the game?’. It’s almost like you’re not allowed an opinion on something unless you’ve done it yourself. Incidentally, Daniel Anderson - never played the game - came over here and won the treble.

I'm guessing you have not. Of course you can have an opinion but to be so negative for many years when you've never played is a bit odd really & unfair on those you throw mud at.

I've played it. Not professionally but to the point I had trials for the town. And I think we're a load of sheeit.

I'm well past the point of being happy with what we get cause it's 'better' than where we were in 2002. I'm sick to the back teeth of the predictability of our seasons, of how things are gonna go when we play a team we should absolutely cane and end up embarassed. But getting up for it enough to challenge the top sides now and then. Watching us spiral and hoping we scrape into the playoffs, just to watch us crash out at the first hurdle.

I'm sick of being soft bellied and weak when it comes down to it. I want us to be ruthless. I want us to smack the ever loving crap out of a youngster from another team and make him think twice about continuing the ball up. Why aren't we hungry to win like Percival at Saints? He's a bell but he'll die for the cause. As I said there is only Ashton, Walker, Thewlis and Bullock right now doing that. Holroyd could join them, he has potential.

But until 1-26 are on the same page, we won't win anything. It really says something when the best aggression I see in our wh9le team (that stays on the right side of the line) comes from Ben bloody Currie.

I played, decent level, not pro.

Last season was crap.
Losing against 12 men for 75 mins was crap
vs Cas was crap
1st half vs Leeds was crap
Playing well at home and losing is crap.

First 7 games were decent
Comeback VS Salford was delightful
First loss to Saints was digestible
First loss to Wigan was also digestible

I've never been an actor but I know a crap film when I watch it...I've played rugby back in the 80s at no great level but again I know crap when I see it...we all know crap when we see it and we are seeing it now...it's up to the clueless hierarchy to sort this mess out...

In what way is Percival a bellend ?

He plays for St Helens ergo......that and the fact he looks like he definitely wears shellsuits, lingers around fruit machines and offers cut priced meats in public houses near closing time. Saying that he is one of the least hateful of the St Helens bunch, that's not saying much though.

There have to be some of them you like? Louie? He's a top guy. Surely you can't have anything against Roby or Lomax?