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| Couldn't go tonight or watch it. Who stepped up and made a difference? I take it Atkins wasn't great but I can look at the other thread for that one......
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| 16 players really give it some Kevin.
1 player didnt and I think responsible for losing us the game.
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| I thought waterhouse and England were very good tonight.
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| Cheers folks. Glad England made a good start. Don't start praising Waterhouse, you know that's not allowed!
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| They was. Waterhouse a bit hot headed. But he put a shift in in defence.
Asotasi was solid. He's nowt special in attack but hard.
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| Westwood outstanding
Hill outstanding
M Monaghan miles better
Ormsby did really well IMO for a first SL game
Ditto Anthony England
Atkins well down on confidence - very poor
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| From Tony's post-match interview I get the impression that once Russell is fit O'Brien will be dropped again. Myler is basically being given a "few more weeks to get fit"
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| Quote ="Rugbychickâ„¢"From Tony's post-match interview I get the impression that once Russell is fit O'Brien will be dropped again. Myler is basically being given a "few more weeks to get fit"'"
If so, that would be a shame.
Russell should be full back, Ratchford should replace Atkins in the centres, and GOB/Myler in the halves.
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| Better but a long way to go.
We could have won the game if not for silly final decisions. In the second half Ratchford and O'B both went for the try line when both Bridge and JMon' were free outside them both times; both were snuffed out in tackle6. And the slack defending for all of their tries were definitely avoidable.
But we lost and we still need to improve as much as we did from last week again, and more, for next week against Hull.
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| We played a good Leeds side tonight without us having any real direction from the halfback pairing. To loose by 6 is not a bad effort. Before hand I think the majority on here would have taken a -6 defeat.
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| Huge improvement on last week... I thought some of the forwards were outstanding... We lacked some guile in the halves and looked a bit out of sorts still, but the effort was there.
Some very poor kicking from Myler and some silly decisions from older players that should know better at crucial times cost us.
One mistake apart Ormsby looked decent and justified the decision to pick him.. he ran the ball in at props and still carried on going forward after impact... It will be interesting to see how he does playing next to someone that isnt having a rugby league meltdown.
its going to be difficult to keep Atkins in the team after that display.
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| Hill,Westwood, England, both Mickeys and Grix played well I thought. Looking forward to having Matty Russell available.
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| Quote ="Warrington Wolf"Hill,Westwood, England, both Mickeys and Grix played well I thought. Looking forward to having Matty Russell available.'"
Ormsby Bridge and JMonaghan too.
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| we need Briers back. Or someone like him. i understimated his influence and coupled with the absence of Hodgson we have become a stale attacking side.
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"If so, that would be a shame.
Russell should be full back, Ratchford should replace Atkins in the centres, and GOB/Myler in the halves.'"
Totally agree
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| I think ormsby was magnificent in terms of a debut performance, he always wanted to be involved. England was solid as was Evans. Hill, higham, grix, Joel and Westwood were as dependable as ever. We were so much better, a few defensive errors, mostly down to atkins who had an absolute stinker but still a massive improvement.
When we were on the 5th tackle only gob actually made me think we could achieve something, Mylers last tackle kicks were just as bad as they were last week he can't be depended on in this situation, hills kick was almost better than any of Mylers. I think ratchford needs a chance at half back, preferably with gob on current form he made a fee mistakes and looked a little rusty but he did at least put Leeds on the back foot and ask them some questions. I feel that Leeds got lucky a few times and perhaps we could have had one or 2 more penalties but all in all we matched up well in the forwards and played ok. Leeds were really good tonight and probably deserved the points on reflection but we have at least given ourselves a performance to build from. Onward and upwards ormsby surely can't be dropped even his supposed mistake wasn't that bad he was caught with a decision to make and at least made one, it was a very good attacking kick to be fair to gene.
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| Ormesby's mistake ? ....i don't think the ball was going anywhere but towards our try line till Ormesby intervened.
A much better display than last week with both defences working overtime & although we lost i really enjoyed the game , & our handling was much improved considering the poor weather. A bit of fine tuning & the tries will come as the team finds a way to the line without Lee Briers.
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| Quote ="ninearches"Ormesby's mistake ? ....i don't think the ball was going anywhere but towards our try line till Ormesby intervened.
A much better display than last week with both defences working overtime & although we lost i really enjoyed the game , & our handling was much improved considering the poor weather. A bit of fine tuning & the tries will come as the team finds a way to the line without Lee Briers.'"
Agreed, that's a pretty good synopsis of our performance. We need to improve again next week but can build from here.
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"If so, that would be a shame.
Russell should be full back, Ratchford should replace Atkins in the centres, and GOB/Myler in the halves.'"
Me also.
Big fan of Atkins but had enough.
Let's take it from there.
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| Damn sight more effort, but that alone won't get us the win, we put our defence right but we still have no idea going forward. Atkins is just woeful, when I thought he couldn't get any worse, he ends up being at least half at fault for every one of their tries. At least TS surely now can realise that the whole left side is in need of help. GOB did well againx just needs to get that last pass sorted out. Evans looked good for us. Asotasi came on a bit. Didn't notice England at all.
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| Plenty of positives from tonight. I thought Ben Evans & England both played really well and both visibly lifted in confidence as the game went on. Ratchford looked more like himself, Grix brought much needed rigidity to the middle and O'Brien fully justified his selection.
That said, once again we had long periods in the opposition 25 and didn't look like breaching their defence. Our tries came from a kick to Joel and a huge individual effort from Benny. I'm not even going to discuss Atkins for the sake of my blood pressure (suffice to say I'm sure Chris Riley is probably looking up the word scapegoat as we speak), but Myler continues to frustrate. One or twice he burst into life, took the line on and had defenders grasping air, then as suddenly he disappeared into his shell or produced the kind of passes that has touchside speccies ducking for cover.
On the whole then, lots more positives but the return of Wood & Harrison, plus Evans & Russell still can't come quick enough.
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| Agree with cm8. A lot of positives. Ormsby and England had great debuts. Our forwards for me were much the better. Just need to sort the halfback situation out. Back wise Joel was spot on and I really like the way bridge doesn't take any crap-really good performance.
We should be proud of that performance because everyone made a massive effort and most teams would have conceded many more if it wasn't for our defence.
Onwards and upwards.
When G Riley comes back I reckon we have the makings of a big imposing pack. Really good signs from asotasi and England, especially as it's his first sl game.
Come on Wire
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Didn't notice England at all.'"
really? He was knocking people off their feet with his drives. I was impressed given it was his first hit out.
Our discipline was much better without Morley and Carvell too i thought.
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| MoM:
Ben Westwood by a country mile.
Players that did well:
England, ran in strong and gains the extra yards on the collision.
Hill, rarely had a bad game.
Higham, as industrious as ever.
GOB, one mistake aside had a solid performance and infinitely better than Monas in that position.
Could do better:
Myler, defended well tonight if only that was his main role we'd be fine
Waterhouse, Apparently the NRL's 2nd best off loader, when he starts attacking again we may be lucky enough to see it.
Bridge, I said to a friend I might have a bet on him giving the first Wire penalty away, didn't disappoint.
Now Atkins is something elses, ive said my bit on another thread, at the very least he's having a week off.
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| Forgot to mention hill- outstanding.
Bridge and Monaghan on the right wing are solid.
I can't understand any negative comments for Bridge as
he was fired up and at least as good as the opposite centres.
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