Your having a laugh, his last try was from a Paul Cooke pass. He's lost without him.

Michael Shenton
Stephen Myler
Daryll Goulding
Joe Westerman
Sam Tomkins
Ryan Atkins

These are the types of players we should be looking at, not your Lyon's and Orford's.

Why would we want some gash RU player, who couldn't hack it at RL?

I opologize
Richie Myler i ment to say.

I like the cut of your jib, young man. Bold ideas indeed, let's hope the club take them on board.

....Hang on there just a cottin-pickin' minute...

Quote ="Rob Wire"Thats some comparison lol, Richie Myler was up against one of the worse teams in super league and Sam Tomkins was up against the team that have been the best side in SL this year. If i remember right from the reports i read Richie Myler did nothing worthy of a mention in that St Helens game either, i wouldn`t want either at Warrington at this stage as both are still inexperienced rookies, were a team that needs experience at present and proven class. Salford have had little choice but to chance a rookie and Wigan are the same after Tim Smith has flopped so far. I hope both make a top flight career in RL as ive nothing against either player, its just based on what ive seen of both and what ive been told about Tomkins i view him as having more potential especially attacking wise as Myler to me seems more of a support half back rather than a creator based on what ive seen of him overall.'" viewtopic.php? ... highlight= I think going off this, he did a fair bit against the SL Champions today. Looks like his stock is on the rise, pretty much a love-in, this thread.

Quote ="Rob Wire"Thats some comparison lol, Richie Myler was up against one of the worse teams in super league and Sam Tomkins was up against the team that have been the best side in SL this year. If i remember right from the reports i read Richie Myler did nothing worthy of a mention in that St Helens game either, i wouldn`t want either at Warrington at this stage as both are still inexperienced rookies, were a team that needs experience at present and proven class. Salford have had little choice but to chance a rookie and Wigan are the same after Tim Smith has flopped so far. I hope both make a top flight career in RL as ive nothing against either player, its just based on what ive seen of both and what ive been told about Tomkins i view him as having more potential especially attacking wise as Myler to me seems more of a support half back rather than a creator based on what ive seen of him overall.'" viewtopic.php? ... highlight= I think going off this, he did a fair bit against the SL Champions today. Looks like his stock is on the rise, pretty much a love-in, this thread.

I didn't see the Dragons v Wigan game, how did Tomkins do in comparison?

He did naff all, scored a try when the game was 40-14 to reduce the deficit. He just passes the ball along, team orders ? Not sure, but he doesn't try to create anything.

Tommy Loo played well in parts. The Catalans pack just dominated wiggin, couldn't get any good field position in the opposition half.

Tomkins didn't do much. Eastmond and Myler are looking to be good prospect at half-back at the mo. Ainscough is a very good prospect on the wing.

There's something so fundamentally wrong with this thread. Splashing out on big Aussie stars hasn't worked. What needs to happen is the players need to get some backbone and play with some passion. At the moment they don't seem to care about the Warrington club, and they aren't playing as a team; they are playing as individuals.

Forget Myler - he is signed up until the end of 2010 - no way a transfer fee under £500k would even attract Wilko & Co. Would feel the same story re Tompkins. Wire should develop the natural talent in the town. There is plent of it and a complete change of focus is needed at the HJ.

Is this going to be the norm where if Myler has a good game you feel the need to bounce this thread up which has turned into a non Warrington thread in the main now ? When we have the troubles as a club that we do at present then neither Myler or Tomkins concerns me, i certainly won`t be bouncing this thread up if Tomkins has a good game just like he did against Quins and the Bulls which were both on sky.

A couple of quotes from that thread you have highlighted.





These quotes are valid for the point i`m going to make, have you seen the pack that Tomkins is playing behind which is one of the worse in the history of Wigan or are you choosing to ignore that ? Even a world cup winner like Thomas Leuluai is struggling to make any real impact apart from the odd bits and pieces here and there which is basically feeding off crumbs from behind the poor performances of the Wigan pack. To be honest you have to feel for a kid thats trying to make his way in the game in having to play behind such a dire pack as that one at Wigan, you would only take Gareth Hock from out of those Wigan forwads and he himself was missing against Catalan.

I remember when Sullivan and Briers were getting slating on a regular basis on here when people were calling them both poor halfbacks and the defence from quite a few regulars at the time was "Your halfbacks are only as good as the pack they are playing behind" which is very true unless your a certain player and you don`t want to be here anyway.

Terry O`Connor made the point in the Catalan game that Wigan are far too slow at the play of the ball and basically everything they do is in slow motion, Tomkins at present from what ive seen of him looks like he has been told to keep it simple and let the more experienced Thomas Leuluai run the ball which is fair enough as he`s basically way down the track as far as experience goes which is where Richie Myler has a big head start over Tomkins hence i was on about in the future, a few games into SL has hardly taken us into the future has it ......




And as for the point above, i indicated nothing of the sort. If you read back you will find that i said Myler may or may not turn out to be SL class as only time will tell which is a natural thing for anyone to say about a player that hadn`t even played a single game of SL at that point and was nothing more than a NL 1 rookie at the time.

here's my big 3

GOD
JESUS
AND THE HOLY GHOST

Not at all Rob.

I thought it was relevent, given the fact that Salford had won at Leeds and days before the debate was about Myler/Tomkins and how they showed up against the 'big teams'. I suppose also, I read the thread back, and you & Sally seemed to think Myler wasn't a signing 'for the now' if you get me, you thought it was a three year jobbie, and we didn't have time to wait so to speak, we needed a 'now signing', I guess I wanted to highlight that he very much is, I reckon behind our dominant pack yesterday, we'd have beaten Castleford for example.

What did you make of Bridge & Monas yesterday Rob ?

we need to sign jason bourne,clark kent and bruce wayne.
i believe simon moran can deliver these to us in our hour of need.

More overseas signings.



When will we learn eh. Where's the youngsters coming through eh ? We should be signing Billy Elliot, Jimmy Grimble etc, not well paid johnny foreigners.

we are in the market for a nippy number seven with plenty of cunning and guile but jimmy krankie is contracted to butlins for the summer!
we might as well make light of things and keep smiling as tony smith will get the job done,i know we'll see improvements soon even though this season could be a long one.
the highlight for me yesterday was my 5 year old son looking at me with 10 minutes to go and saying through a popcorn filled mouth
"dad,wires are not very good today are they?"
"no,they are struggling mate,do you want to come next time?"
"yeah"
that says it all really,we get fed up but we all turn up nontheless
keep smiling

maybe Bruce Wayne can throw a bob or two into the coffers being a millionaire business man.

PLEASE
No more big names !

Sam Moa?

Only six letters?

Iafeta Paleaaesina.

Big name, big bloke.

and Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook

Or LMS for the lazy (including myself).

How times change(and how people flip flop).