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| Winds me up all that business, fair enough let them choose. But once you've played for one, you can't play for another.
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| The problem is, and the RFL have suggested tighter International selection policies, Australia wont play ball and therefore there's not a damn thing you can do
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| S tomkins
Atkins
Bridge
Yeaman
Foster
Brough
Widdop
Graham
Robinson
Peacock
Westwood
Harrison
Ellis
Burrow (decent Hooker option)
P Wood (deserves a chance)
Carvell
J Tomkins
now i know i havent included morley or peacock but for me i think they are a bit past international and i know there are a few of my home wires in there but i think these are best options in this position
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| wait i did put peacock in ha ha
4 days no fags brain gone to mush
Peacock in the team was meant to be Sam burgess ha ha
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| Quote ="wolfinwidnes"S tomkins
Atkins
Bridge
Yeaman
Foster
Brough
Widdop
Graham
Robinson
Peacock
Westwood
Harrison
Ellis
Burrow (decent Hooker option)
P Wood (deserves a chance)
Carvell
J Tomkins
now i know i havent included morley or peacock but for me i think they are a bit past international and i know there are a few of my home wires in there but i think these are best options in this position'"
Nice one for putting just Foster in there, even I didnt put him in the team on mine. What about the likes of Roby or O'loughlin?
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| to be honest Roby slipped my mind having a brain fart day giving up smoking change burrow for Roby
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| and i put the ginger ninja in there
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"sorry can't have O'Loughlin at this level)'"
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| Not at all, if you're looking at rugby in a one eyed teams only attack then yeah brilliant I'd put him in the team BUT here's the thing
v Wire ALL our points came on his wing
v Saints ALL their points came on.....yep you guessed it
It's a game of attack and defence and the Oz and Kiwi's will run through him like he isn't there and any good work we do in attack will be negated by his woeful defence.
Laugh all you want mate because Wire will take a look at your right side and spend the full 80 bombing it, running at it, and passing to it.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Not at all, if you're looking at rugby in a one eyed teams only attack then yeah brilliant I'd put him in the team BUT here's the thing
v Wire ALL our points came on his wing
v Saints ALL their points came on.....yep you guessed it
It's a game of attack and defence and the Oz and Kiwi's will run through him like he isn't there and any good work we do in attack will be negated by his woeful defence.
Laugh all you want mate because Wire will take a look at your right side and spend the full 80 bombing it, running at it, and passing to it.'"
Nice comeback, got to give you credit for covering your embarrassment with a figleaf.
But really, come on... have a look at the Wigan board. He gets loads of votes in the MOM thread. The lad has some defensive frailties (though to be fair his centre is learning his trade, which must affect Charnley's defence) but Charnley is one of the few matchwinners in SL. He can score or set-up tries from literally anywhere on the park. He's on a great run of form and I just don't see how he cannot be in the England squad.
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| I agree but the key words in that are "in SL"
I'm thinking England v Australia in which wingers/centres running at him are better than Foster and Meli and dare i say it better than King and Atkins
I'm not saying he's crap just nowhere near an England shirt.
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| Morleys got to be in the team just for his presence. He might not be statistically the best prop around, but the Aussies ,espicially, are scared of him.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I agree but the key words in that are "in SL"
I'm thinking England v Australia in which wingers/centres running at him are better than Foster and Meli and dare i say it better than King and Atkins
I'm not saying he's crap just nowhere near an England shirt.'"
I agree, and i'd put Atkins + Myler in the same category (i.e. good in SL, not gonna cut it internationally)
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| Another superb performance from Lockers yesterday. How can those who have missed him out of their England side on this thread claim to know anything about RL? You have embarrassed yourselves.
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| I agree that anyone who leaves O'Loughlin and Sam Tomkins out of the starting XIII either know nothing about RL, or are incredibly biased.
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| Quote ="Deano G"Nice comeback, got to give you credit for covering your embarrassment with a figleaf.
But really, come on... have a look at the Wigan board. He gets loads of votes in the MOM thread. The lad has some defensive frailties (though to be fair his centre is learning his trade, which must affect Charnley's defence) but Charnley is one of the few matchwinners in SL. He can score or set-up tries from literally anywhere on the park. He's on a great run of form and I just don't see how he cannot be in the England squad.'"
if you switched us with you, and put penny in place of charnley, you lot would be crucifying him.
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| Charnley has to be in the England team, he gets lots of votes in the Wigan MOM thread....
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| Quote ="FireWire"I agree that anyone who leaves O'Loughlin and Sam Tomkins out of the starting XIII either know nothing about RL, or are incredibly biased.'"
Agreed.
I mean, who else would you put at loose if you left O'Loughlin out? Sinfield is no longer could enough at international level and doesn't possess the same work rate that O'Loughlin has. O'Loughlin offers good defence, a good passing game and an ability to drive forward.
Me, personally, my forwards would be:
Graham
Roby
Morley
Westwood
Ellis
O'Loughlin
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| No offence, mate, but that's a shocking back line
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| Quote ="worthing wire"No offence, mate, but that's a shocking back line
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Ha ha was going to say its a bit lacking in pace, even compared to some of the awful backlines GB/England have fielded in the past.
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| Oops. I've edited it now. Thanks lads
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| Morley hasn't performed great this season, plus factor in his age, plus factor in his current eyesight issues.
I would have Mossop or someone of similar ability instead, think it would be better for Morley health if he retired from the international scene..
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| A rethink.
1. Tomkins
2. Briscoe
3. Bridge
4. Shenton
5. Atkins
6. Widdop
7. Myler
8. Carvell
9. Roby
10.Graham
11.Burgess
12.Ellis
13.O'Loughlin
14.Robinson
15.Wood
16.Mossop
17.Westwood
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