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| I don't think Clarke or Westwood will make the trip to France. Although it is a very tough away game I would give both of them another weeks rest ready for e real tough group of fixtures. Castle and hull will be more of fight for the top four come the end of the season . Not saying a win in France is easy but no point rushing Clarke back early and loose him for longer . If needs be I would drop Evans if we had to make space
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| It'd be an absolute travesty if we broke up the Gidley/Sandow axis. It showed how much we missed Kurt in the first 60 on Thursday before Sandow stepped up. Plus Ratch is a centre and not a half or fullback, and there's no way we can shift Russell from full back on the other night's display. Our centres have come in for some criticism so it has to be one of them to make way. I'd keep Evans in because he is an absolutely superb defender. Sorry Ryan.
Whether this is what happens is doubtful. I reckon he'll drop Evans or Penny personally.
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| Guarantee Westwood won't be on the plane to France
And only 2 weeks ago Smith said in the press his plan A to play Gidley 1 Ratchford 6 Sandow 7 had been totally changed due to the combination Gidley & Sandow had formed. He stated he wouldn't change that system whilst both were fit, he will be back at 6
As for Ratchford ??? Centre seems best suited to his attributes
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"
Gidley will go to 1
Ratch will stay at 6.
I'd bet sizeable money on that permutation'"
But didn't TS say directly before the Salford game that Gidley and Chrissy was the best HB partnership in SL and he had no wish to break it up.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Ratch to centre for me, Atkins out...won't happen though.
Gidley will go to 1
Russell will go on the wing
Penny will be dropped
Ratch will stay at 6.
I'd bet sizeable money on that permutation'"
Think id take that bet, Smith as already commented on how well Gidley and Sandow have gone as a pair, i cant see him not putting Gidley back with him, if he does not then he is going back on what he said about not splitting them if it works.
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| I'm going for
Russell
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| Gidley / Sandow is the form half-back partnership in SL and cannot be broken now. Russel is proving an invaluable metre-maker at FB and can't be shifted either. For me, Ratchford should start on the bench, as his broken-field running style would prosper more later in the game when Cats big forwards are tiring. Only other possibility, if Clarke and Dwyer are both playing, is to take over Atkins slot at centre. Evans is now the better centre and needs a prolonged run. For all that Atkins scored two last Friday, he was shaky in defence, gave away a try when he failed to catch the kick that Liu scored from, and made the stupid shoulder charge on O'Brien that could have cost us in the second half.
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| Quote ="Melph"What about russell covering clark'"
Put someone who is a poor passer at hooker. Great Idea.
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| From last weeks 17 - Ratchford on the bench sitting in wheelers seat. Alternatilely start Ratchford at 9 but use 3 pivots.
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| Ok, so Ratchford is woeful defensively at full back. Cant believe anyone is suggesting that. Russell hasn't done anything wrong to warrant being shifted. Gidley has to be back in at 6. If it aint broke, don't fix it!! As for the Ratch debate. If he starts, it has to be at centre, for Atkins. However we all know this wont happen though after him being bobbins but scoring two tries. R.Evans has been great defensively, but, for me, offers nothing in attack. So id go Ratch for Evans.
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| Quote ="LOngbarn Wire"Ok, so Ratchford is woeful defensively at full back. Cant believe anyone is suggesting that. Russell hasn't done anything wrong to warrant being shifted. Gidley has to be back in at 6. If it aint broke, don't fix it!! As for the Ratch debate. If he starts, it has to be at centre, for Atkins. However we all know this wont happen though after him being bobbins but scoring two tries. R.Evans has been great defensively, but, for me, offers nothing in attack. So id go Ratch for Evans.'"
When he got the ball in some space in the Leigh friendly Evans showed just what he can do in attack. Defensively he is way ahead of Atkins. Atkins/Ratchford partnership at centre looks like a revolving door for the big Catalan side to me.
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| if gidley's back, ratch is on the bench for me, covering 9.
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| Gidley has plenty of experience playing at 9 and could easily move there to spell Dwyer. He would still be in the middle dictating and defending so I don't think we would lose anything. Ratchford would then move to 6.
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| I'd drop Rhys and play Ratchford there. I don't get the whole hype with evans, he never does anything spectacular and doesn't do anything more then what Atkins does. But everyone bags Atkins and never says anything bad about Rhys? So either way drop Evans or Atkins and throw Ratchford in the centres for me.
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| Quote ="Or thane"I'd drop Rhys and play Ratchford there. I don't get the whole hype with evans, he never does anything spectacular and doesn't do anything more then what Atkins does. But everyone bags Atkins and never says anything bad about Rhys? So either way drop Evans or Atkins and throw Ratchford in the centres for me.'" Ratchford and Atkins is a very dodgy defensive combination.
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| Ratch on the bench for wheeler. Clark in if fit.
As cats are a big team we need at least Dodds and Cox on the bench and possibly King.
If Dwyer has to drop out then ok, but it's a tough call.
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| For me, Ratch on the bench. His problem is that although he is a very good player, is he actually better than anyone we already have in set positions? I'm not convinced.
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| If Clark is unfit then it is Gidley at #9 & Ratchford at #6.
If Clark is OK . Ratchford on the bench. Dwyer to miss out.
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| only a madman with a dying agenda would want Ratchford in at 6 ahead of Gidley.
its a good job we dont have any of them on here.
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| Quote ="Or thane"I'd drop Rhys and play Ratchford there. I don't get the whole hype with evans, he never does anything spectacular and doesn't do anything more then what Atkins does. But everyone bags Atkins and never says anything bad about Rhys? So either way drop Evans or Atkins and throw Ratchford in the centres for me.'"
Bang on, ratchford for evans, dont rate the fella.
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| Quote ="Or thane"I'd drop Rhys and play Ratchford there. I don't get the whole hype with evans, he never does anything spectacular and doesn't do anything more then what Atkins does. But everyone bags Atkins and never says anything bad about Rhys? So either way drop Evans or Atkins and throw Ratchford in the centres for me.'"
I agree, I think Rhys Evans has a lot to prove and I don't think he was very good defensively on Thursday. I didn't see a lot wrong with ratchfords defence Thursday though. For me Atkins is better than evans, I think the problem with Atkins is we have seen him play so much better in the past, notably when he was partnered with King, maybe he needs a bit of a leader next to him to be at his best?
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| Evans or Atkins to be replaced by Ratch, both of them are poor, ideally to partner Penny, getting to ball to the pace outside gives the opposition plenty to think about rather than plundering up the middle. Gidley if fit simply has to partner Sandow, Dwyer is easily good enough to back up Clark and when Clark is fit we need Dwyer on the bench to prevent burnout.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"When he got the ball in some space in the Leigh friendly Evans showed just what he can do in attack. Defensively he is way ahead of Atkins. Atkins/Ratchford partnership at centre looks like a revolving door for the big Catalan side to me.'"
Is that potentially his level then? Did well against a championship side? Just playing devils advocate.....
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| Quote ="CW8"I agree, I think Rhys Evans has a lot to prove and I don't think he was very good defensively on Thursday. I didn't see a lot wrong with ratchfords defence Thursday though. For me Atkins is better than evans, I think the problem with Atkins is we have seen him play so much better in the past, notably when he was partnered with King, maybe he needs a bit of a leader next to him to be at his best?'"
Ratchford was awful for the Salford try when they dove over from AHB. Completely messed up.
I don't think he has earned a shirt yet.
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| Hill was awful letting Sau saunter past him for their first too....
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