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| heard 1 last week that a certain winger and a certain centre/stand off had a barney in the gym and a dumbell was thrown by 1 at the other,hence the certain centre/stand off got dropped for the leeds game,dont know how true it is but i dont just post rumour for the sake of it although i cant confirm the above and if this has been mentioned before then i apologise!
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| Quote ="the fucitolbladderwrack"Nail on the head Geordie! There is a split within the club, the players that air on the side of professionalism and the players who simply do not. The problem we are facing is what our club itself, (and i dont mean the players), deems acceptable behaviour for a professional Rugby League player, is far from what other clubs would deem acceptable from their personnel. Until this is put right, Tony Smith will be fighting one hell of an uphill battle. Like it or like it not, Warrington are one of, if not the last Superleague clubs to fully embrace professional Rugby League, both on and off the field and it is frighteningly noticable this season above all others. There are huge decissions to be made this season, from top to bottom at Warrington and unfortunately its not going to be a quick fix, but there are a few people who need to take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror and ask themselves if the way they are going about their business, is truly whats right for the future of Warrington RLFC!!! If they can be totally honest with themselves, then either "put it right once and for all"......... Or simply leave, because we as fans dont want you here!!!!'"
you should send that in! its spot on. probly wouldnt listern mind.
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| Quote ="bombheadwire"you should send that in! its spot on. probly wouldnt listern mind.'"
You bet your life its "spot on", that is why Tony Smith is fighting one hell of a battle..... And not just against certain players, but against the culture that surrounds WWRLFC and what our club deems as acceptable behaviour by a professional sportsman/athlete. I for One wish you all the luck in the world Tony in the tough job ahead, you`re going to need everyone at our club pushing in the same direction to help sort this mess out, "but im not convinced that you are going to get the help you need from the people you would expect to give it to you"!!!
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| 'WhatsIsFace' on GMR the other week emphasized that the club/board are 110% behind any decisions or changes that TS wants to make. I suspect that this week could be the first serious test of that statement.
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| Quote ="Thelonius"'WhatsIsFace' on GMR the other week emphasized that the club/board are 110% behind any decisions or changes that TS wants to make. I suspect that this week could be the first serious test of that statement.'"
It wouldnt be the first time the board has come out with statements they dont back up with actions would it? Only time will tell!!!
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| Quote ="TNT Burke"heard 1 last week that a certain winger and a certain centre/stand off had a barney in the gym and a dumbell was thrown by 1 at the other,hence the certain centre/stand off got dropped for the leeds game,dont know how true it is but i dont just post rumour for the sake of it although i cant confirm the above and if this has been mentioned before then i apologise!'"
I can't work that one out.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"I can't work that one out.'"
He is aiming to say that two players had an arguement in which the agressor got dropped. However he goes onto say it maybe a rumour he isn't sure. for further translation just ask for my service ( i studied at college before you say i am a )
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| Quote ="dennison15"He is aiming to say that two players had an arguement in which the agressor got dropped. However he goes onto say it maybe a rumour he isn't sure. for further travelling friend translation just ask for my service ( i studied travelling friend at college before you say i am a travelling friend
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You seem to be spending a large amount of time on here, you really should be conversing with your 'friends'.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"You seem to be spending a large amount of time on here, you really should be conversing with your 'friends'.'"
Team building excercise something your club should invest in
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| Quote ="dennison15"Team building excercise
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Yo know the ones you have afternoon tea with and change their names on a whim aren't real 'friends' don't you?
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Yo know the ones you have afternoon tea with and change their names on a whim aren't real 'friends' don't you?'"
My mum said they was
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| those cold winter nights must fly by in your house, go back downstairs and sit with your imaginary friens they must be wondering where you are.
i find a Hull fan taking the mickey out of Wire equally amusing.
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| Thought Mona was seeking a release to join an NRL club? Canberra wasn't it?
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| Quote ="rising damp"those cold winter nights must fly by in your house, go back downstairs and sit with your imaginary friens they must be wondering where you are.
i find a Hull fan taking the mickey out of Wire equally amusing.'"
sorry to tell you, but it's not winter you spoon
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"
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cna't be d putting any effort into doing one like the cullen one.'"
Sorry - have I misunderstood the post by Geordie?
He says Antipodian (ie Aussies) are upset by the lack of professionalism shown by others.
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| Quote ="fes"Sorry - have I misunderstood the post by Geordie?
He says Antipodian (ie Aussies) are upset by the lack of professionalism shown by others.'"
but he doesn't get payed to do that does he unlike some of the poor Warrington players who couldn't beat a junior team
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| come in out of the cold son..you'll catchya death
"spoon eh" only just caught on to that saying have you in Hull...it is so last century.
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| looks like there is a real division in the camp and this would explain the current depth of the defeats....need to get rid of Briers to Celtic poosaders if they will have him
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He says Antipodian (ie Aussies) are upset by the lack of professionalism shown by others.'"
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| Quote ="Geordie"Lets just say that the work ethic of a handful of players doesn't sit well with some of the Antipideans who are much more used to a professionall environment.'"
Interesting Geordie, i have just said tonight to my mate that for some reason i would rather have Monas leading the backs than Briers, this is the reason why
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"
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As Geordie has mentioned the antipodeans are the more professional, are we stating here that we would rather back the lazy players instead of the professional ones?
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| so who is the problem? monas or briers, as clearly one has to go?
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| I think that we have to conclude that Matt King simply is nowhere near as good as he appeared to be before we signed him. Playing in the back line of the all-conquering Storm probably flattered his ability, and his appearances for Australia were on the wing inside centres who could consistently put him into gaps to use his long stride and big frame to force scores. We can't deliver that type of service, and he has no sidestep or classy body-swerve, nor even Gleeson's dancing feet, to make space for himself. If everyone ( including the Aussie selectors ) were fooled than it's bad luck on us that we won the race for his signature. Despite carping from Pie fans they were just as desperate to get him at Wigan.
King's wages may be inflated vis-a-vis his ability, but it's hardly his fault for taking the money. Once you accept that he is basically a solid, sound RL back, then you see that he is really trying hard with the limited talent he has. It's not confidence - he's merely an ordinary player. Outside Gidley or Senior, he may get the sort of gaps he needs. What did he have today? Simon Grix, a capable second/back row forward as his centre!
If Simon Moran hasn't lost too much of his fortune in the slump, he may be tempted to do a deal with King at season end and let him go back to Aus. I doubt King would get a major contract there now, either, unfortunately, so the Wire pay-day will prove to have been his last big one.
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| kingy and Monas would be snapped up tomorrow by any Aussie club. Something is a miss with our club. Has been for sometime. We have tried to build a first time and there's no depth behind it. If the first time dont play well then we have no back up unlike other clubs. We repeatedly build up young kids into new hopes and I cant remember the last home grown player who has made it big for us.
If TS doesnt ring the changes then no one will. Players need to b dropped because at the meoment they play rubbish and keep their place. In any other walk of life, repeated failure would lead to dismissal in one form or another.
It's time to get rid big time
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| A former coach has come out in public criticising a player for his performance in training. This person may or may not have been the captain under that coach...
And you wonder where we have been going wrong.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"I think that we have to conclude that Matt King simply is nowhere near as good as he appeared to be before we signed him. Playing in the back line of the all-conquering Storm probably flattered his ability, and his appearances for Australia were on the wing inside centres who could consistently put him into gaps to use his long stride and big frame to force scores. We can't deliver that type of service, and he has no sidestep or classy body-swerve, nor even Gleeson's dancing feet, to make space for himself. If everyone ( including the Aussie selectors ) were fooled than it's bad luck on us that we won the race for his signature. Despite carping from Pie fans they were just as desperate to get him at Wigan.
King's wages may be inflated vis-a-vis his ability, but it's hardly his fault for taking the money. Once you accept that he is basically a solid, sound RL back, then you see that he is really trying hard with the limited talent he has. It's not confidence - he's merely an ordinary player. Outside Gidley or Senior, he may get the sort of gaps he needs. What did he have today? Simon Grix, a capable second/back row forward as his centre!
If Simon Moran hasn't lost too much of his fortune in the slump, he may be tempted to do a deal with King at season end and let him go back to Aus. I doubt King would get a major contract there now, either, unfortunately, so the Wire pay-day will prove to have been his last big one.'"
on the limited amount of game time i have seen of king i think this seems a very fair assessment. whilst not having a particularly big impact on the games i have seen he at least appears to be putting the effort in. it's easy i suppose for fans in general to get on the backs of big money earners if the team is struggling, but like you say he can hardly be blamed for taking the money
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