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| Quote ="marshman777"How many world class props as there, how many are available, how many want to play in the UK, how many want to play for Warrington?? = probably none
How many good props as there, how many are available, how many want to play in the UK, how many want to play for Warrington?? = maybe 1 or 2 but they also want to play for Wigan, St's Leeds ect.
How many average props as there, how many are available, how many want to play in the UK, how many want to play for Warrington?? = probably 3 or 4 and again they would play for all the other clubs if offered a contract.
Some people on here think that the recruitment is dead easy, find a player offer him money and get his signature !!
Has anyone thought that Cox is the only player that fits in the criteria above and therefore we have signed the best young prop available to us.
We have all been calling for another prop, we get one and we are all moaning !!!!! unbelievable'"
Spot on this. If there was somebody better available I'm sure the club at the very least would've tried to sign them and Cox wouldn't be here. People have been saying "we need a prop" for a while now - who then? Apart from Ukuma Ta'ai and Sam Burgess (was never gonna happen was it) there's been nobody else mentioned. We need forwards and we now have Hill, Sims, Dodds, B. Evans, Westwood, Cox, G. King, Philbin. Not as strong as we've been in the past but that's us done for next year I'm afraid and we make the best of it, as mentioned Cox probably wouldn't be here if we had another forward coming in.
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| Is Cox a substantial improvement on England ? Will Dodds be on the pitch more than Asotasi ? Have we ever really replaced Morley, Carvell and Wood ?
Even recognising the market forces, a fans forum is absolutely the right place to discuss the club's recruitment policy, and seeming lack of ambition.
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"Is Cox a substantial improvement on England ? Will Dodds be on the pitch more than Asotasi ? Have we ever really replaced Morley, Carvell and Wood ?
Even recognising the market forces, a fans forum is absolutely the right place to discuss the club's recruitment policy, and seeming lack of ambition.'"
I've got to fully agree with his shiny and I'm a bit disappointed that having got ourselves out of the doldrums, we've slipped a bit and seem ill prepared in the transfer/recruitment market on the face of it
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"Is Cox a substantial improvement on England ? Will Dodds be on the pitch more than Asotasi ? Have we ever really replaced Morley, Carvell and Wood ?
Even recognising the market forces, a fans forum is absolutely the right place to discuss the club's recruitment policy, and seeming lack of ambition.'"
Cox is not as good as England at spitting.
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"Is Cox a substantial improvement on England ? Will Dodds be on the pitch more than Asotasi ? Have we ever really replaced Morley, Carvell and Wood ?
Even recognising the market forces, a fans forum is absolutely the right place to discuss the club's recruitment policy, and seeming lack of ambition.'"
"seeming lack of ambition" - care to explain that?
I thought we had paid two six figure transfer fees, one of only two clubs to use the marquee exemption to sign a player, signed a prop who has just played in the NRL grand final and an ex Aussie international who has just been voted player of the year for his club in the NRL.
Just because we sign somebody who has 64 SL games to his name and when ever I've seen him looked a decent prospect with plenty of size to replace a championship level prop who never took his chance to step up in class you're whinging like a 10 year old schoolgirl on Christmas morning who didn't get the My Little Pony they asked for.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane""seeming lack of ambition" - care to explain that?
I thought we had paid two six figure transfer fees, one of only two clubs to use the marquee exemption to sign a player, signed a prop who has just played in the NRL grand final and an ex Aussie international who has just been voted player of the year for his club in the NRL.
Just because we sign somebody who has 64 SL games to his name and when ever I've seen him looked a decent prospect with plenty of size to replace a championship level prop who never took his chance to step up in class you're whinging like a 10 year old schoolgirl on Christmas morning who didn't get the My Little Pony they asked for.'"
Whenever you've seen him play you must have seen something a lot of posters on here and social media have failed to notice. We've signed a player from a club that have consistently finished below us in Super League yet have released him, who's had various internal disciplinary issue at Hull KR, has suffered various injuries and by his own admission gets ill very easily following the removal of his spleen.
I would love him to do well at Warrington, but I make no apologies for being underwhelmed at signing him. The good thing is is that its only a 12 month contract, so not a massive risk considering he'll be a squad player.
You mention posters are acting like 10 year old girls not getting My Little Ponies, but it comes across in your post that your doing the same yourself because you don't seem to like the criticism his signing has brought. Quite ironic that.
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| Quote ="Paul2812"Whenever you've seen him play you must have seen something a lot of posters on here and social media have failed to notice. We've signed a player from a club that have consistently finished below us in Super League yet have released him, who's had various internal disciplinary issue at Hull KR, has suffered various injuries and by his own admission gets ill very easily following the removal of his spleen.
I would love him to do well at Warrington, but I make no apologies for being underwhelmed at signing him. The good thing is is that its only a 12 month contract, so not a massive risk considering he'll be a squad player.
You mention posters are acting like 10 year old girls not getting My Little Ponies, but it comes across in your post that your doing the same yourself because you don't seem to like the criticism his signing has brought. Quite ironic that.'"
He's replacing Anthony England for God's sake not Les Boyd. All your criticisms of Cox apply to England as well.
Do you honestly believe England is better than Cox?
Anyway my gripe with the whinging spoilt schoolgirl contingent is the accusation of lack of ambition.
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| That'll be "whinging like a 10 year old schoolgirl on Christmas morning..." who invests their time and money in supporting the club, who therefore feels entitled to express their opinion, which perhaps differs from your own.
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| I really hope Jordan kicks on and proves he can make it at super league level
For some unknown reason to me he has never played front row for us he has always played back row under 3 different coaches now,
I guess the writing was on the wall for him last season when we was down to bare bones in the pack and we sent Cox out on loan to hudds (Where he played back row as well), if rumours are to be believed he was on the way out at the end of the season but Jamie peacock wanted to have a look at him see if there was anything to work with but that didn't take long if we have released him after a week back at training
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"That'll be "whinging like a 10 year old schoolgirl on Christmas morning..." who invests their time and money in supporting the club, who therefore feels entitled to express their opinion, which perhaps differs from your own.'"
You can express your opinions all you want however when you make totally unfounded statements then expect to be challenged about it. That is what a forum is meant to be about.
So why do you think the club is "seeming to lack ambition"?
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| Westwood was in all purpose covering some work usually done by props last season. He coped very well and will go well for us again in that role.
Sims has the attributes of a great skipper, he's not a million miles off a prop too, he's tall but 1/2 a stone shy. I hope he had his fish battered with his chips and gravy during the close season.
Hill solid and always slightly improving. This year we could see him peak and in turn unofficially recognised as the best prob in SL.
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| I'm underwhelmed by our forward signings but it doesn't mean I'm saying they are bad players. I like Jordan Cox and think he could be a bargain buy, if he stays injury free he could come good. I like Westwood as a prop and think he will do ok, gutted Harrison is missing most of the season I think prop is his best position. That saying I'm more then happy with the rest of our signings I think we've brought some skill and power in our back line which will see us good. I have to admit when I heard we signed Dodds I spat my dummy out and through a hissy fit. But I was going off what I had previously seen which wasn't good. I've seen a lot of his games this year including the final and he was in the same mold as sims, he's a big fast prop with great defence. He drives hard and could excell over here, lots of not well known players do well in a different style of competition so fingers crossed. Hill, Sims, Dodds, Evans, Harrison, King, Westwood,Philbin. We're not short of grunt so I'm more and more happy with the squad as time goes on, I'm looking forward to 2016
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| Well, we've 14 pages of discussion about a lack of props, and the "solution" seems to be the anmouncement of Jordan Cox, yet you fail to comprehend that for some (who believe that the lack of go forward was a problem last season) this might show a lack of ambition by the club to improve on the situation ?
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"Well, we've 14 pages of discussion about a lack of props, and the "solution" seems to be the anmouncement of Jordan Cox, yet you fail to comprehend that for some (who believe that the lack of go forward was a problem last season) this might show a lack of ambition by the club to improve on the situation ?'"
Warrington made the third most metres in Super League last season and the most metres per carry in the league. That would seem to suggest go forward was not the issue.
Perhaps 10th for clean breaks might have an ambitious club looking to recruit halfbacks, like Sandow and Gidley for example.
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| Given a decent halfback pairing who click with the forwards, we may well see a different effort in front of the sticks and the metres forward will also improve. Clearly on first impressions Cox is no world beater, but with him on a 12 month deal and Harrison on 12 months injury enforced sabbatical I guess all could go well. However, it could fall down if Cox gets injured, ill, poor discipline or just doesn't do it as appears to be the main comments elsewhere. He has a chance at a club that is as well equipped for success as any other in the league and he has to grab it.
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| "seeming lack of ambition" how can you say that when the wanted list was Thurston, Burgess, Cronk, Hargreaves, Bromich, Graham, Tomkins, Ingliss and Cox.
The only one available was Cox !!!!!. We have ambition but as Mummy would have said "You cant always have what you want".
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| i don't think anyone can accuse the club of lacking ambition... It seems to me that its the exact opposite...... Its has invested heavily in facilities, team and management over the last few years.
You can make some accusations at lazy recruitment and recruiting in the wrong areas....Which the club now seem to be in the process of fixing.
lacking ambition though? come on.. please.
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| i think they're doing it on purpose, antagonizing certain sections of fans, stayaways, grumpy s however you want to label them, for some people though, they just can't do anything right no matter what. Using the slightest of issues to justify staying away or persistantly moaning.
We all know someone thats like this.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Warrington made the third most metres in Super League last season and the most metres per carry in the league. That would seem to suggest go forward was not the issue.
Perhaps 10th for clean breaks might have an ambitious club looking to recruit halfbacks, like Sandow and Gidley for example.'"
Naughty ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif) . You know Metres and AG includes all players not just the pack and will distort the facts. After Hill, Stefan Ratchford made our most metres. 7 of the top 10 AG for Wire were backs.
I think the problematic stat is Tackle Busts at 6th in the league and below all of our rivals. At times we looked like we could not burst out of a paper bag when we needed to and were easily contained. Hull KR CCSF game especially.
I will concede though that we looked equally poor on the opposition 30m line too in terms of creativity and a new halfback pairing was a must.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"He's replacing Anthony England for God's sake not Les Boyd. All your criticisms of Cox apply to England as well.
Do you honestly believe England is better than Cox?
Anyway my gripe with the whinging spoilt schoolgirl contingent is the accusation of lack of ambition.'"
I agree with you, I don't believe England is any better than Cox. But it still doesn't mean I'm happy we've signed him. We've swapped an average player with a spitting problem for a player who might be good with an attitude problem, that by his own admission needs to grow up.
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| Well, I said we should never have let Roy Asotasi go. A big experienced prop that never got injured and hardy missed a game. Where are all those detractors now ?
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| Bring back Roy, BRING BACK ROY,! He wasn't a naughty boy he was the saviour...
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| Id take roy back on cox's wages...
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| Did Cox play against us 2/3 seasons ago scoring a try? unless my memory is playing tricks he had a decent game and was a bit of a handful.
Best of luck to the lad he seems to be in the right frame of mind now and is intent on doing well.
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| Quote ="ricominciare"Did Cox play against us 2/3 seasons ago scoring a try? unless my memory is playing tricks he had a decent game and was a bit of a handful.
Best of luck to the lad he seems to be in the right frame of mind now and is intent on doing well.'"
He sure did. Round 22 of the 2013 season, he scored KR's only try in a 34-6 home win for the Wire.
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