i dont think you will find many arguments on here against that.

I also agree with this, BUT according to TS on the red button it sounded pretty much like when Russell is back Ratchford will go back into the halves.

He did but was in praise of GOB but not so of Myler?????

Russell
Monaghan
Bridge
Evans
Atkins
O'Brien
Myler
Hill
Higham
Asotasi
Waterhouse
Westwood
Grix

Ratchford
England
Evans
Laithwaite

Why would you put one of our best players on the bench?

If anything

Russell
Gene
Bridge
Evans
Monaghan
Ratchford
O'Brien
Hill
Higham
Asotasi
Waterhouse
Westwood
Grix

M Monaghan
B Evans
England
Laithwaite

Think Atkins & Myler need time out of the squad.
Still have Wood & Harrison aswell to come back into the squad.

Russell
Monaghan
Bridge
Atkins
Ormsby
Ratchford
Myler
Hill
Higham
Asotasi
Westwood
Waterhouse
Grix

Monaghan
England
Evans
Currie

This.

For me:
1.Russell
2.Monaghan
3.Bridge
4.Evans
5.Ormsby
6.Ratchford
7.GOB

Although if Harrison is fit id be tempted with:
1.Russell
2.Monaghan
3.Bridge
4.Grix
5.Ormsby
6.Ratchford
7.GOB

Whilst I really rate Grix and he can/has done a decent job at 4 and even 6/9, surely one of our first priorities is to understand what our best back line is and his inclusion doesn't add to the debate IMO.

It appears to be accepted that Russell is 1, Riley and Atkins are in poor form (although I did not see Friday's game) and we seem to be wondering when/if Myler can take charge then surely we need to field Evans and O'Brien for them to stake a claim rather than draft a forward into the mix?

That way there will be real competition for 'the shirt' rather than a 'merry go round' of players that think that they can't be rested. For example, Atkins can feel the heat from Evans and perhaps Ratchford as they are long term options for his position, especially if the form of GOB, Myler and Russell make them impossible to replace rather than Grix flitting in and out because of injuries.

Bridge has done well, I think a Brett Delaney type move to the back row awaits though.

Is russell definitely available then? Thought he was out a bit longer.

GOB / Ratchford / Myler is an interesting one... despite showing some good touches I still not convinced that GOB isn't still a little rough around the edges, but of the three at the moment his guile means he almost has to play at the moment.

On balance I think Bridge and Atkins are the weakest on current form, personally I don't rate Bridge at all (3 screw ups for everything he does right) whereas Atkins needs to play into a bit of form, so if Russell is back I'd put Ratchford into the centres with Atkins.

Forwards played better last week - can't see the sense in making changes there.

You must be the only one who wants Atkins in the team this week!!

I reckon even Atkins doesn't want to play this week.

According to Hull board, Grix is out this week. Anybody heard anything?

League Express has Bridge as our MOM against Leeds. And still you don't rate him!!!!

Stevo and carney got Atkins and Bridge mixed up too last weekend.
But at least Carney saw the error and quickly apologised not wanting to attach the poor performance upon him.

Regardless of how well GOB has been playing surely we have to go with what was Plan A at the start of the season and give Ratchford and Myler a run as a halfback partnership?

Yes, I've been thinking the same. He still has lots to offer but for me now lacks the speed you want from a centre

He has too much skill to use him as 2nd row.
He'd be better suited at loose of moved up to a forward as not to waste it.

I agree we should stick to Plan A.
All the fuss on here is because we are just no longer used to losing

We only had a plan A in the last grand final and we haven't won a competitive game since.

Nah we had a plan B at the G/F but that went out when Hansen 'tackled' Ratch.

"Plans can fall through, as so often they do, and time is against me now".

As coaching guru Wayne Bennett once said.

Well, it was Morrissey actually and I don't think he was talking about the Myler-Ratchford axis but you get the gist.

I'd like to see a shake up as I still don't get the feeling that the centres are under threat of being dropped if form is poor. It's too early for Russell to come back in from his injury, so try

Ratchford
Penny
Joel
Bridge
Ormsby

OR

Ratchford
Joel
Bridge
Currie
Ormsby

Having Joel and/or Currie come in at centre would really intensify competition for the centre spots. Joel played most of his games in the NRL at centre, and Currie has teh speed and skills to do a good job here, and he's in all honesty not likely to oust Westwood and Waterhouse from the second row and 13 is now a third prop instead of a proper loose forward in the old sense.

Forget Penny, listen to Skents interview with TS, you get the impression he's still unsure of him.