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| Quote ="Nikaed"I'd go.
1) Widdop
2) Briscoe
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4) Atkins
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9) Roby
10) Graham
11) Ellis
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13) Grix
14)Robinson
15)Wood
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17)Carvell
Breeze through the aussies that.'"
How disappointed are you that no took you on about the lack of a certain Mr Tomkins
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| Quote ="inside_man"How disappointed are you that no took you on about the lack of a certain Mr Tomkins
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i love the way that the only player you have a selection issue with is tomkins.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"i love the way that the only player you have a selection issue with is tomkins.
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Someones already pointed out Grix, Atkins is a viable (if stupid) selection.
I tried to not be too overly critical, might hurt his feelings.
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| Quote ="inside_man"Someones already pointed out Grix, Atkins is a viable (if stupid) selection.
I tried to not be too overly critical, might hurt his feelings.'"
Atkins has been excellent.. his stats measure up with the best in the league. (we know how you wigan fans love stats).
he isnt a stupid selection at all.
i would rather have him than shenton, welham & yeaman... and the new amazing centre that is joel tomkins.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Atkins has been excellent.. his stats measure up with the best in the league. (we know how you wigan fans love stats).
he isnt a stupid selection at all.
i would rather have him than shenton, welham & yeaman... and the new amazing centre that is joel tomkins.'"
I wouldn't have Joel Tomkins anywhere near the England side. But I also wouldn't have Atkins unless he was on the wing.
Bridge + Yeaman (or Jack Reed but I don't know enough to speculate on him)
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| Quote ="inside_man"I wouldn't have Joel Tomkins anywhere near the England side. But I also wouldn't have Atkins unless he was on the wing.
Bridge + Yeaman (or Jack Reed but I don't know enough to speculate on him)'"
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player?hs1=2011&hp1=2162&hs2=2011&hp2=229&stat=tries&season=2011urlAtkins vs yeaman[/url
Having played 3 games less, going off them stats I think Atkins is the better option
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| Quote ="Who are ya!!"[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player?hs1=2011&hp1=2162&hs2=2011&hp2=229&stat=tries&season=2011urlAtkins vs yeaman[/url
Having played 3 games less, going off them stats I think Atkins is the better option'"
And ones played in a side 2nd in the table, with an unbelievable points difference.
The other plays for Hull.
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| Quote ="inside_man"And ones played in a side 2nd in the table, with an unbelievable points difference.
The other plays for Hull.'"
And I wonder why we are 2nd with an unbelievable points difference? Is it perhaps we have loads of players who are playing great RL but still are under-rated? Such as Atkins, Myler, Westwood, Grix etc?
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| Quote ="inside_man"How disappointed are you that no took you on about the lack of a certain Mr Tomkins
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Not at all. As you just did.
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| Quote ="worthing wire"No, the problem will be that the first 17 are simply not good enough to beat either Australia or New Zealand. The fact that the reserves won't be up to it either is incidental. And crabbing the coach is pointless, really - Wayne Bennett could be in charge of England and they still wouldn't win.'"
With our best 17 and if we perform and the Aussies or Kiwis have an off day, we win.
But without Tomkins, Roby, Brough or Graham we would struggle to beat either side even if they had an off day.
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| Quote ="SEB"And I wonder why we are 2nd with an unbelievable points difference? Is it perhaps we have loads of players who are playing great RL but still are under-rated? Such as Atkins, Myler, Westwood, Grix etc?'"
I really doubt Westwood is still underrated by anyone anymore, he's generally one of the first names on everyones England team sheet.
Myler is improving, been good this year. And Atkins is a good player at SL level, I just think there are big deficiencies in his game that are papered over in Wire's side, but will be heavily exposed internationally.
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| Quote ="inside_man"I really doubt Westwood is still underrated by anyone anymore, he's generally one of the first names on everyones England team sheet.
Myler is improving, been good this year. And Atkins is a good player at SL level, I just think there are big deficiencies in his game that are papered over in Wire's side, but will be heavily exposed internationally.'"
Like what
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| People have showed a fair bit of club bias on here, not least of all my fellow wire fans. The squad isn't bad, there's more depth than I can remember. And I'd love to see England make a decent fist of this tournament.
But unfortunately, I feel that whoever plays will still be pulling a Green and Gold rubber johnny out of their hole at the end of the tournament.
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| It's good that Australia/NZ are touring here, gives SJM a chance to meet with them/agents etc. I'm sure we'll be chatting with a couple for when we need to replace pivots.
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| Quote ="JWP"It's good that Australia/NZ are touring here, gives SJM a chance to meet with them/agents etc. I'm sure we'll be chatting with a couple for when we need to replace pivots.'"
True. Benji Marshall on the HJ pitch to replace Lee would cause romance explosions all over town.
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| Imagine Marshall in SL, his touch'n'pass approach to rugby would go down a treat. It'd be like watching Rangi Chase but with a an end product.
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| Quote ="JWP"Imagine Marshall in SL, his touch'n'pass approach to rugby would go down a treat. It'd be like watching Rangi Chase but with a an end product.'"
We can live in hope! He's just one of those rare players isn't he. I have a sneaking suspicion that Benji would rip Super League clubs to shreds at this moment in time. And Rangi reminds me of him in a few ways, certainly with his ability to confuse the living daylight out of defenders.
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| My feelings on England are that we have the most competitive squad in years. By that, I mean we have talented players in key positions. If we could get some combinations going between Roby, Brough, Widdop, Tomkins et al, we could cause some problems. Unfortunately we also have the worst coach in years so I cant see that happening.
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| Quote ="BobWire"My feelings on England are that we have the most competitive squad in years. By that, I mean we have talented players in key positions. If we could get some combinations going between Roby, Brough, Widdop, Tomkins et al, we could cause some problems. Unfortunately we also have the worst coach in years so I cant see that happening.'"
Do me a favour with this, please. The only change of any real note from the last two Four Nations and the World Cup will be Danny bleeding Brough. If that proves enough to win, I'll eat my hat. And coat for that matter.
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| I stand by it. We have enough quality players in key positions to be the most competitive England team in years. We dont have the imagination or mindset to do anything with that.
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| Quote ="inside_man"I really doubt Westwood is still underrated by anyone anymore, he's generally one of the first names on everyones England team sheet.
Myler is improving, been good this year. And Atkins is a good player at SL level, I just think there are big deficiencies in his game that are papered over in Wire's side, but will be heavily exposed internationally.'"
Pretty much bob on with that post.
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| 1. Donlan
2. McGilvary
3. Nanyn
4. Bridge
5. Riley
6. Ridyard
7. Myler
8. Hill
9. Higham
10. Morley
11. Westwood
12. Goulden
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we'd batter m!!!!
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| Wire players available for England...
1. Riley (Ratchford)
2. Evans
3. Bridge
4. Blythe
5. Atkins
6. O'Brien
7. Myler
8. Moz
9. Clarke
10. Carvell
11. Grix
12. Westwood
13. Harrison
14. Higham
15. Wood
16. Cooper
17. Tyke (Hill)
18. Mitchell
19. Laithwaite
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| Quote ="Alfie Langer No2"Wire players available for England...
1. Riley (Ratchford)
2. Evans
3. Bridge
4. Blythe
5. Atkins
6. O'Brien
7. Myler
8. Moz
9. Clarke
10. Carvell
11. Grix
12. Westwood
13. Harrison
14. Higham
15. Wood
16. Cooper
17. Tyke (Hill)
18. Mitchell
19. Laithwaite'"
Isn't Grix playing for Ireland? I don't bemoan him being in there but why not Briers as well then?
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| Quote ="inside_man"Isn't Grix playing for Ireland? I don't bemoan him being in there but why not Briers as well then?'"
He probably will but if McNamara wants him, he's available for England selection I understand. Similar with Carvell, Harrison, Evans, Bridge, etc. They could all play for other home nations but want to play for England.
Briers though, has decided he wants to play for Wales. He is not available for England selection.
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