Poor excuse.

Excuse???



I just said its annoying how people wont pay to watch the play offs, especially season ticket holders, but they will for the regular season and the GF.

That's fine then. I misread your post so I apologise.

No worries.

I can see what you mean by many coments on that thread but I could say the same with fans of every team on other threads. Blaming Wigan for everything, and trying to defend McGuire and no mention of Lauitiiti. For some its just another chance to have a go at Wigan. If someone is going to coment on the game then they should have an inpartial view and look at more than one incident. So yea criticise Wigan fans right now, but there are many that arent much better.

The Lauititi thing was just sheer stupidity (and against the Laws of the Game), but the McGuire incident was certainly a foul, however people on the Wigan Board have actually stated that if a Leeds player had made a similar break, then they would have expected their own players to do the same thing. For what it's worth I thing Alibert got it wrong. The McGuire 'tackle' should have been penalised, whereas I thought that Donald was committed to the tackle when Richards kicked the ball. If you play it at normal speed it shows that he is committed. The Leeds players concern was that they thought something had happened to McGuire after the incident.
The anger from other fans is because Wigan fans were called Leeds cheats and their fans scum. There was no mention of the incidents involving the Tomkins brothers who appear to be intent on building up a bad reputation for themselves at the moment. It could be argued that Joel's stupidity actually got Leeds on a roll and cost Wigan the game.

Id love to know what the hell Tomkins was thinking when he kicked out at McGuire right under the posts. Absolute stupidity and gifted them points. What cost Wigan the game was too many players having poor games, making mistakes in bad areas of the field and a very bad kicking game. Im more frustrated with the players then the final incident. But we all need to move on, Wigan and Wire are now in knock out footy, and that should be the focus. I can see us both winning, but im not sure who Saints would want to pick if that happened. Either way its going to be tough for both of us.

If we both win, Saints will pick us, there's no doubt about it.

You did get a penalty, didn't you? What did you expect? A penalty try?

Which one of the Sky imbeciles mentioned penalty try last night? Was it Stevo?

Think so but Clarke Carney and Eddie just laughed at him

Yet when their next game comes around against Saints, they'll be absolutely adament that this particular fixture is THE derby! Ive thought for a long while now that Wigan fans see us as their biggest rival. Or certainly a majority do. Its arguably the same with Saints. I never hear chants from either of their sets of fans during a live game aimed at each other, only ourselves.

Its brilliant stuff.

We'll be literally despised when the time comes to win SL for the first time. Seeing Old Trafford filled with Wire fans would be very unsettling indeed. And its largely to do with how well supported and atmospheric we are. Seeing us win trophies must feel like they've had a rolling pin caked in itching powder showed right up their ring aswell!!!

I dont care anyway. Being a Wire fan is an emotional whirlwind, at times awesome, at other times, unbearable. But ya just wouldnt change it for the world!

I think we are already literally despised. But do you know what.........I couldn't care less!

Step 1- actually read what I said
Step 2- read it back as you still probably just read what you want to

I havent complained about the result, nor did I complain about the penalty we got. BUT its still a disgrace what he did, its not complaining, its my opinion. IMO there would be plenty of people on here angry about it, probably you. If you actually read any of my posts, you would understand that I DONT think we deserved to win. Where the hell you got a penalty try from I dont know...

I dont know about, your going to beat them one day, do they really want to risk it being the last ever game at KR and a semi??? They'll probably look at how both our games have gone. If you walk your game and we struggle in a tough game then Saints might want Wigan. Im not overly confident about friday anyway, although after every loss we have responded very well.

I'm not the d if Saints pick us. If they did they'd pile all the pressure onto themselves for the following reasons :

- No one expects us to beat them see'ing as we haven't for 16 years.
- They would never get over losing their final game at KR to the Wire. Bragging rights would be eternal.
- They're under more pressure to win silverware than us. Wire have won 2 major trophies in the past 2 seasons. Saints have won nothing.
- To win the Grand Final you've got to beat the best teams, so we may have to play them again anyway, whether its at KR or Old Trafford.

I bet Wigan/ Saints fans don't mind Bradford anymore because they're no longer a threat. We're a threat, so they dislike us.

Bitterness at our recent success.

Wigan did get a penalty, but the penalty was for the wrong thing. Nothing wrong with the tackle on Richards, Donald was committed, nothing he could do.

The pull back was illegal yes and I've seen players binned or even sent off for similar offences in the past, what annoyed me more as a RL fan was that a glaring error from the referee will go unnoticed by Stuart Cummings.

Wigan fans have a right of course to be upset about what McGuire did, it was a professional foul. I feel Albert failed to penalise the offence because it would have meant producing a card to McGuire and referees these days use the kop out report system (my opinion only). This system isn't needed anymore as the video review panel watches each and every incident, yet referees still use it to avoid making a real decision, without making it seem like they're not doing their job properly.

What made it worse was Albert asking the VR for his opinion on the matter and still letting the incident go unpunished.

McGuire should get one game, but then again, Tomkins should be up for 3 or 4 for what he did.

However (and I know you're not one of them Bondi), wishing an injury on a player is about as low as you can sink, not only as a RL fan, but as a human being.

i'm still amazed alibert got that game.

I agree the 'on report' is a kop out system and one that isnt even needed as they review everything anyway. Tomkins is frustrating me, his discipline is costing us, what he did was stupid and imature. TBH I wouldnt mind seeing him get a ban becuase he needs something to make him wake up and realise how poor his discipline is.

As for Alibert, he was embarrassing, he has no idea what so ever. I dont condone wishing an injury on anybody, as you say its as low as you can sink. Many of those, were complaining when Alan Beswick made a coment regarding Amos Roberts injury, so it seems a bit rich then wishing McGuire to be injured. That comes across as very bitter indeed. I think enough of us know we didnt deserve to win and we wernt cheated out of it.

I think you're the one who needs to read stuff before they throw (another) hissy fit.

I didn't say you did want a penalty try - I asked you whether you wanted one or not. I didn't suggest that you stated that you deserved to win either. If you don't want a penalty try, I'm not quite sure what you're complaining about. Maguire's play was cynical and deserved penalising. That was the only decision that was appropriate. Actually, you actually got a penalty for Donald's perfectly legitimate challenge on Richards so actually you benefited from an error, if at all.

If we're whining (rather than wishing their careers were over/backs/necks were broken like Odenwingie and King Warrior) about cynical/stupid play than you might want to have a word with the Tomkins brothers. The outcome wasn't as acute was the Maguire play granted but it's still bad form.

Me too, but since Ganson is probably on the run from the WI, and Silverwood had to have his mandatory Saints v Wire game at Knowsley Road, he was the only other ref apart from Ian Smith that hadn't had a game this weekend. But since Cummings hates Smith, that's probably why Alibert got the nod.

Joel Tomkins falling on Richie Myler at the DW was far more cynical. Those 2 points we'd have got from the resultant penalty would have got us 2nd in the league. Nasty wiganers.

I cant stand that clown,he sure sh@t himself soon after when L anderson smashed him and he spewed the ball...still say that was the game changing moment when we beat them.

How would we have got the extra 2 points though? wasnt it as he scored under the sticks? so we got the conversion anyway?

Another 2 points. 8 point try, fouled in the act of scoring.

Because, although rare, the referee has the power in those circumstances to award another penalty to be kicked after the conversion has taken place. As the offence was under the sticks, it's a safe bet we'd have scored two more points.