This. Although There isn't much difference between the SO and SH anymore besides which side they control you do notice the best teams have their halves controlling different parts of the game. The need for traditional names for positions is very relevant still.

Maybe we were revolutionary in the 1980s....was Kevin Tamati not a prop forward that we played at 9?!!!!

Definitely a forward. Because he had to be Walt....now we're playing backs there.

I'm all for using fractions, 3/4's, the Aussies refer to the Stand off as a 5/8th, let's go the whole hog...

Salford now think they may have signed Brown, I’d pay that fee

Need someone to drive him to the train station?

if ratchford is our fb then we must not move him to the halves unless it's the very last option so we will have Patton Roberts and smith in the halves anybody who thinks that's enough is crazy !! Was not a fan of us signing him more so due to age but he will do the job when called upon

I would also add he linked up very well with ratchford in the England warm up. Do we take the hit on brown and sign another or wait and see who's available when he is released ?

I think people need to drop the brown hating for a while and let's see how he performs under price getting a bit tedious and predictable now

I'm not his biggest fan and was not jumping with joy upon his signing for us however if we're to draw a line under the smith era a new slate for all and that includes brown who is nowhere near as bad a player as some make out he was exceptional against Brisbane and has played very well when called upon in the England team he linked up very well with ratch against CAS something not seem all season.

I don't get the Brown hate. He was not the worst performer last season by any measure. Hand on heart how many players performed anywhere near their best last season. Atkins, Sims, I'm struggling after that.

Brown's previous club history makes him a difficult player to like and there was probably also a feeling when he signed that he is past his peak and we just picked him up because he was available.

He didn't have a very good season but he is still a player capable of having a big influence on particular games. I was quite happy when we signed him, he had been a good player at Widnes. Lets see what a new coaching set up can do with him.

Let's call a spade a spade. Brown had a poor season, yes others (many) did as well but he was still poor.

That said, TS did him no favours. He is a player that needs structure, Warrington haven't played with a decent attacking structure in place for a good few years, and that was only because we had the playing personnel (Briers, Monas, Hodgson) to create and maintain their own structure.

Brown isn't 'that' good to do that himself. However, if you put a good enough structure around him, I think he could be good enough, and I'd be willing to give him the chance to prove that under a new regime.

I'm disappointed he got picked for England, I wish he had time with Price and Roberts to develop that structure - him flying to Australia to take place in training drills has robbed us of two months on the training field. But, he'll be itching to prove a lot of people wrong next year, hopefully he can.

Brown can be a decent enough player behind a successful pack, just like most half backs. He isn’t the future for sure, but we’d be crazy to let him go when he has one season left to prove himself under a new coach. It’s not like we need the cap space or the money, and there really aren’t any replacements out there at this point in time.

If Bennett thinks he’s good enough to make the England squad and do okay behind a big pack then I’ll go with that. Might just surprise us - he was okay at Hudds and Widnes WHEN the team as a whole was playing well. Let’s wait and see.

Like others I was not a fan of the decision to sign him, but I will say I thought he had done a good job at Hudds. In the WCC game he was very good as were lots of others, but we know what happened next



The current position for me is that he is a better option now than last year. He is a class better than what is/will be available. Letting him go is as bad an idea as it was to sign him last year.

All the players are on clean sheet territory with SP. Having four HB's (MS, DP, TR and KB), with Harvey and Ratch as potential covers if required should give healthy competition.

If the HB's are given some time/space and protection we could have a very good year in 2018.

A voice of reason between hysteria.
Post of the week.

There will be no Brown bashing from me until he plays behind a Price pack not a TS powder puff weak pack.

Brown not in 17 for Australia.

I hate the term “middles” or even worse “miggles” as some of our North West thick players and coaches pronounce it.

Just another ‘thick Northern rugby league’ word

To Rank Alongside:

I thought our "D" wuz awe-sum...
.really can't we say defence or defensive efforts. ..

And Brian Noble going all Hollywood with
He's give him a big see ya lay- der

If you can't say hand off then at least say later with a T

Babtiste looks an interesting rumour....as much as I liked Hock as a player a decade ago, I can't see it now unless he's coming on a 12 month or pay as your behave deal!

he was and what a front row we had back then with boyd tamati and jacko 2nd row of roberts sanderson and the late great mike gregory at loose..what a pack

Suddenly menace in the front row doesn't seem so radical after all.

My favourite Wire pack by a mile

+1

Bored now,when are we going to announce anymore signings

and the backs werent to shabby either

I'll take it your not asking me.

Duckie quote

HOT HOT HOT!!!

A couple of weeks ago I told you the club was talking with a 3/4!. I know the name. Sorry I can't say but he's going to be marquee no2! Signed.
Teaser...out and out centre but can and has played as a half.
Alleged.

Who was this marquee no2?