more like Arsenals pursuit of the Champions league.......always next loving year.......

im not having it anymore... HB's are just the start of it..... the problem lies at the door of other people

like who..do tell

I need a distraction from this nightmare....

SIR A M.
What odds are the odds on Hull FC sacking their coach first?

the people that train these players to play like this.... the people that sign NRL players that appear to be 'shot'...

look at the team from 2/3 years ago..... look at us now... big mistakes have been made on and off the pitch IMO

Whoever sanctioned Asotasi...

you may have a point with that..signing players from overseas has seen many come here for holiday..some dont i know.for e.g dobson should have got him..travis burns not brilliant but better than what we have..fwiw the players id like here are whitehead and escare of cats..carney of cas..dobson...we can all dream

think he could be the favourite atm

You would expect us to watch these overseas players before signing them. Somebody isn't doing their job.

I take it back . . For the minute Patton looking to be well on the way to being a briers replacement for me .

Patton had me reminiscing when he gave Hill a dogging for being in the wrong position from a restart.

Exactly , seems to have taken up some of That Briers 'Boss' under the wing. And his bombs seem to have snow on them .

Dec Patton is only 19, he's got a long way to go yet.
I admit I don't know that much about him, is he a Warrington born lad.

Also last season we signed a 16 year old from the Leeds academy who has huge promise but his name escapes me right now.

Certainly good with ball in hand for the first half but seems also to have inherited an inability to defend as well. However Smith putting Ormsby, King and Patton down the edge defence is suicidal. Patton needed some physical presence to cover him.

They will be a target for the opposition.

Absolutely.... i didn't understand after the first few tries why Smith didn't move it around a bit.. swap bridge and King, Westwood and Currie or Monaghan and Ormsby... He just watched us get destroyed all night down that side.

Agreed. An easy change would have been to put Currie on the outside shoulder of King.

Patton was unfortunately trampled by Tomkins and Gelling and needs a player with a physical presence like Atkins to protect him.

Morgan Smith?

Well we did get given some plastic flags to wave a few weeks ago.

Until last night I was fully behind TS but it's obvious his recuitment skills are not as good as his man management.
We could do with bringing back Cullen to build the side and then replacing him with TS again to run it!

We look like a side that will probably end the season in 7th/8th place and lets face it, if we keep conceding 30 points+ in matches then we will lose more games than we win. Our defence reminds me of the late Cullen/early Lowes era.

Hopefully the youngsters we keep developing and get plenty of game time as I can see us reaping the benefit of this in a few seasons time. Could do with spending some money next year though on some real quality to ensure we are competitive though. A decent Halve to play next to Patton would help his development immeasurably and take some pressure off him. He looks like he could be class for us.

didnt watch the game live, but for about 50 minutes we looked slightly better in terms of attack, the set up for the currie try is what has been missing all season (good work from both myler and patton).

i almost posted on here earlier this week i was concerned that king and patton would be defending against Gelling(wasn't sure which side tomkins was playing at the moment) he's not a cultured player at all, he's just really really awkward, which is enough, he's very similar to david krause who used to play for london ages ago that was all elbows and knees and just awkward to try and get your hands around.

Interesting to see that Wigan have worked out the best way to use him.

We're still defending far too narrow and poorly, the first couple of trys, proper sucker punch but we were all bunched up in the bloody middle, its not working at all.

Arms and legs....
Roy Haggerty!

This is a bit like the 2009 side, bags of talent, no end product.

Let's hope the rest of this season and the ensuing seasons after play out the same way then!