Underwhelmed!

I just thought he was a typical miserable assed yorkshire man.

Its interesting if one considers their feelings with reference to the classic Kübler-Ross Grief Cycle. In order, the stages are: Shock, Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Testing, Acceptance.

I have progressed steadily through all of these stages in the last few years an am now in acceptance.

Shock Stage - PC's 2 year extension
Denial - JC 4 year contract, and other daft contract extensions - I denied them all assuming a mis-print in the Guardian.
Anger - Castleford game at home.
Bargaining - Trying to convince myself Lowes was an inspired choice after a fantastic start.
Depression - All close season trying to believe and failing, fearing the worst for 2009.
Testing - A last chance to test ourselves against the best - St Helens away.
Acceptance - Les Catalans game. Just the acceptance that all the problems and issues that have dogged us for years still remain and there is nothing I can do about it.

That is tragically true. I'll be advising my lad to go directly to 'Acceptance' - it will save him a lot of bother.

wales france and england, that`s only 2 countries, wales is a pricipality !

1994 finished jouint top with bradford and wigan, huddersfield?

bloody moaners inc.

i'm a fool, that was pre super league


i'll get me coat

well arguably you could say first half of last season when we were 3/4th for ages, as well as top.

I thought timing wise, the board would struggle to deliver Tony Smith with the World Cup around the corner, it just didn't fit right, what with it being the first WC for eight years, Enlgand had prepped well, it seemed like the momentum was in their favour. Obviously with events in Australia, Smiths stock has fallen somewhat, his contract only has this year to run and I genuinely feel the RFL would be more receptive to letting him take the reigns at Warrington, should it be something he'd want to pursue.

I'm borderline pleading with the decision makers at Warrington Wolves to make this happen, and to save 2009.

Couldn't have put it any better myself.


Count me in.

I have hotels booked in London and Edinburgh.

The idea behind London was for me to go to the game whilst the Mrs spent time with her daughter (who lives in Chiswick). Seriously tempted to write off the Hotel cost (only £19 Travellodge) as I really don't think I can be bothered with the time, effort and cost of the drive and weekend in London.

For Edinburgh I have booked another Travellodge for three nights. Was to be me and the lad taking in an Edinburgh RL weekend. Every chance now that the whole family will travel and we'll use the family room as a base for a long weekend exploring the highlands.

I really can't believe I feel the way I do. The performances, and the manner of the capitulations both this season and the back end of last season, has left me completley apathetic about the team, club and sport I have loved so much.

It feels odd doesn't it. I didn't feel ready for the season to start, and now I know why! Could NOT get myself up for the game at the weekend, almost didn't care less.

I was starting to feel guilty until i read some of the posts on here by who i see as the optimists on this board...

I started watching Wire in 1989 and Warrington R.L.F.C. has practically been my life since... There isn't many away grounds i haven't visited since then..

I've been to Wembley watched us in other finals and seen us win one trophy so i've been pretty success starved like many others....

The start of this season i made the decison not to renew my season ticket after what i saw as a shambolic end to last season and the Briers true fan comments (a player i rate)....
But i take no pleasure in making what i now see as the right decision...
I've seen dissappointing,lazy and downright embarrasing performances before under numerous coaches at Wire...

But i feel Saturdays pathetic effort was as bad as it gets....
The players aren't playing for the fans,and the fans have turned on the players...The coach simply is up to the job and even the little things around the club aren't up to standard..(The food kiosks running out,peoples reserved seats being sold)....

It really is a sad state of affairs...

There does seem to be quite a few people not
renewed season tickets know a few myself some
its financial but most are disillusioned, got a relative
who travels a similar distance to the author of the
topic he comes up from Gloucester, wonder if the
club are aware or give a toss about the people
who are making these extra efforts only to see
an apparent lack of effort/structure/organisation
when they get here.

In the same vein as another poster i support the
team no matter what, and who ever is in charge, i
take the view that its my chosen club and players
coach etc are temporary, but i do want something
positive to shout about , i think we've attracted
too many mercenarys, the whole start of the season
has got a feel of 2002 about it without the relegation
aspect,had a full pre season to work on problems
and we ship 66 points in 2 games,not good enough,
wont be going friday watch it on sky.

Thats so true mate, Look at Widnes aswell. Id hate it if wire ever got relegated

Scenario: If Wire put a 1st class performance on Friday and put 40 odd on Wakey would people change their minds?

I'm not joining that clique. I don't think I'm in the not Bothered Camp. I'm in the God Knows What I Think Camp. I can't see my enthusiasm coming back whilst the lie back and enjoy it jerk is in charge. But I'll still get really fed up if they lose on Friday (and play as badly again). 45 minutes vs St H, 10 minutes vs Catalans, 2 minutes vs Wakey?

The thing is, as disappointed as I am right now, I'll be glued to the TV on Friday, taking every tackle, bobbing up & down on the coach screaming 'get 'em off em ref' & appluading sarcasticly every decision that he gives for offside because you can't escape the fact that there's something inside you, something desperate for this chumps to roll their sleeves up, just click and realise their potential.

Which is about 75% of the reason I'll be going. The chance to visit the good pub is another reason. And maybe even first trip of the year to THE pub.

I've got a season ticket this year - at Leigh.

It was free for my 10 year old, £50 for my 16 year old and £140 for me. £190 for the 3 of us ,seating in the main stand at a cracking new stadium. The missus will pick and chose her games, it's unreserved seating so extra fans can come as and when and you can all sit together.

We'll pick and chose our Wire games this season. We walked away from the Hull KR friendly (early, after a crap 2nd half) and I said "that's why I wouldn't pay £550 for equivalent season tickets to watch that shower". I'd rather go and watch a bunch of enthusiastic young players working their nuts off to make their way in the game than supplement the pensions of some of our Big Time Charlies.

whay does for me is that I fall for it every year
every year I think it will be our year
never have lost faith so early quite frankly so rotten to the core the club is it will be a 3 year turnaround

I cannot travel to away matchs to watch this rubbish and although a season ticket holder for many years i am beginning to feel enough is enough....watch sky and pick matches is just about what this shower deserve ..I despair

Not so. The Bothered Brotherhood can't bring ourselves to moan, not really. We just sit around sighing, shaking our collective heads.

Then we watch Peep Show on DVD to cheer ourselves up.

First class idea! Maybe we could get Super Hands in the changing room to look after team diet and supplements.

I've already used the phrase 'sh*t munchers' this morning.

To whom do I apply for membership of the "Not as Bothered" Club?

I suspect this must be a little like Alcoholics Anonymous.
You feel that you're the only person in the world who feels the way you do, only to take comfort in the discovery that what you're experiencing is actually more commonplace than you dared hope.

The Saints collapse didn't hurt at all.
The Catalans debacle washed over me and I was fine a few minutes after the match.
As I've seen written by others on here, I have mixed feelings over whether I want the team to do well at Wakefield as that will only prolong the appalling decision to make Lowes the Head Coach.

I am grateful to Simon Moran and his involvement with the club.
I believe Andy Gatcliffe to be a more than able Chief Executive.
I even have no gripe with Doug Hoyle's role within the club.
But to have an unproven, inexperienced and ill-disciplined Head Coach was a huge and monumental mistake.

By the way, I'll still hold this viewpoint when we convincingly beat Leeds next week!