Does it not? amazing.

This thread is about betting on the Saints-Wire game. Your post is about betting on the Saints-Wire game.

Its intended to last for the season and not just 1 game.

If you did that same bet on the 4 games last season against them you would have lost everytime.

Obviously you dont keep records,but -8 was certainly not available on all 4 games last year.

I think he means that all 4 games last season would have lost you a bet with -8.

gordon bennett,the point is that the handicap mark is wrong,thats why i say that saints -8 is the bet.if the hc was saints -28 and my mark said it should be -16,then obviously wire on the hc would be the bet

Actually, it wsa -8 last February as well and even -14 for the cup match.

No, the point you were making is that on past history, Saints should beat us by more than 8, therefore you think people should bet on Saints tonight. Whearas, last season (when past history was similar, in fact worse), betting on Saints with a -8 handicap would have seen you lose all 4 bets.

In other words, your logic for tonight is flawed.

do you see why we don't have(possibly need)a regular betting thread on here.

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Maybe not but the point am making is if you were to do that bet (with the reasons you give you could of said the same last season) you would of lost.

We don't need any threads but seen as it's a public forum, it's rugby related and some people have a view on it, i will post it.

I don't brag about anything, i simply put up odds 2 days before a game with my opinion, i then ask for other people to give there opinions, people like Sirlesboyd and JWP give good views.
If you don't bet then don't look at the thread unless you have no clue how it works and want to learn, Simple's.

Seb;
The logic is'nt flawed.As you rightly point out,the CC game was -14,the 1st was -8,the 2nd league game at saints was -12 and the home game was Wire +6.

The point I am trying to get across is,that according to a -8 handicap,the ookies are saying that Warrington are only a place or 2 behind Saints and I'm saying we are more than a place or behind Saints,hence my mark of -16.

Btw;
I have an opinion on the Cas/Quins game on sunday.Can that go on a seperate thread or does it stay on here?

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the point i was making about betting threads, i know you or les usually start one before matches, but they aint all that huge sprawling threads are they, and normally drop off the page pretty quickly, hence not warranting an annual one,of course things change don't they.

Oh yes i agree we don't need one thread to run all year round but a couple of days before each match is fine, we have threads about the best cheese to eat and crocked pavement slabs on the streets, know there useless.

Prove it.

Prove what?

No, the bookies are saying that, on balance, they think Saints will beat us by 8pts. Looking at recent history, they have beaten us by that or less on several occasions. So, I think people were reacting to you saying "Quite a simple game to work out tonight." The reality is, it isn't. Sometimes Saints flog us, sometimes it's a last minute heartbreaker. We may even win! Who knows, new coaching staff and all that.

If gambling was simple, there would be alot of bookies going bust - doesn't seem to happen much!

What odds can I get on Ben Westood being injured in the warm up ?

You wont get anything from the bookies but ill give you 1/4.

The odds are short because there's a good chance of it happening.

What you have remember is that there are only 2 or 3 rl odds compilers and they usually read from the same script.The other bookies copy and paste to within 2 points to stop the arbers.Hence the reason for doing your own handicaps and having your own opinions.So it was quite easy for me to work out.

Cant see a problem with having a season long betting thread for like-minded folk.Theres 1 on the Hull fc board that makes good reading.i'm sure there are a few on here that would rather read that,than something inane like,"whats your fav 3rd play the ball move"

I have just put £100 on Warrington to win outright.

Best of luck

i agree with what you`ve said it is fact...but the saints team is the one ageing...fancy us with 8..in fact fancy us to sneak it....should we get walloped then it does`nt bode well for the season...

Damn! We are doomed for sure now Mick has backed us!

Actually, I think you'll find our average age is higher than theirs and has gone up since 12 months ago whilst theirs has actually gone down.