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| I'd rather see Gidley in the reserves if I'm being honest.
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| Brown will never be good enough to take us to where we want to be. And this has been a season too far for Gidley.
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| Not performing as the general we need to guide us aroud the park
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| He's our Matty Smith... We need someone to replace him asap.
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| So that's 3 of our 4 top choices for the halfback positions that should be dropped to the reserves (Patton, Gidley and Brown). If Patton was deemed droppable due to form the other two should be cleaning his boots for a week.
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| I don't want either dropped. We need continuity in our halfs and our spine in general. Ratch, Brown, Gidley, Clark & Westerman need time out on the park together.
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| They are un-droppable.
No replacements.... Next idea.
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| Brown was a centre when he played at Wigan
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| We should have gone for Todd Carney.
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| I thought brown was better in the second half but Gidley was poor. The problem I have with our ball players is that on attacking plays the ball gets to the second rower too early. Jack Hughes often had the ball well before the line and then had to make the decisions rather than the second rower committing to run a line and the half back making the decision to hit him or miss out or go themselves.
We tend to play like an under 13's team where the ball carrier (half back) is running with the ball at an angle that is eating space up on the edges but everybody on the outside is jogging along expecting a pass rather than running a line and sticking to it. It usually ends up with 3 players within 5 yards of the touchline. To be fair though Russell scored 3 tries that should never have been scored. His first was right in front of me and when he went for it I though he was going to be bounced into touch but he was very strong.
I know Russell has took some stick but those tries took some scoring.
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| There is a lot of disconnect with our halfs and forwards. It seems as though this season we need to have ball players all over the park. How many times did Jack Hughes get the ball, fake a run then half heartardly throw a pass out that usually hit the deck. Young Jack should concentrate on trying to do his job and get through the line. He has been a big disappointment for me this season.
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| Quote ="kirtonLindseyWolf" How many times did Jack Hughes get the ball, fake a run then half heartardly throw a pass out that usually hit the deck. Young Jack should concentrate on trying to do his job and get through the line. He has been a big disappointment for me this season.'"
There were some on here saying he was better than Liam Farrell. Wigan usually keep hold of the good ones.
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Brown was a centre when he played at Wigan'"
True, but never a good one. Nobody was that bothered when Noble sold him to Huddersfield.
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The article doesn't say that we did unless I've missed it?
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The article doesn't say that we did unless I've missed it?
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| Am I the only on that thought Brown played a lot better than he had done previously? Yes, he got caught in possession a couple of times and threw that ridiculous pass which led to a try for Hull but he was looking for the work, he was linking better with Gidley and his outside backs and was running along the defensive lines looking for dummy and active runners.
Or did I watch a different bloke?
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| Quote ="CharlieWong"He's our Matty Smith... We need someone to replace him asap.'"
Matty Smith is a top half. Kevin Brown is not.
This post makes no sense.
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| Quote ="WWRLFC78"Am I the only on that thought Brown played a lot better than he had done previously? Yes, he got caught in possession a couple of times and threw that ridiculous pass which led to a try for Hull but he was looking for the work, he was linking better with Gidley and his outside backs and was running along the defensive lines looking for dummy and active runners.
Or did I watch a different bloke?'"
You must have. Poor in attack with a few errors, but embarrassingly awful in defense. Hull were clearly targeting him on our left side. He was like a turnstyle except for 1 good tackle in the 2nd half.
TS needs to show consistency in his attitude toward players who aren't performing and drop him. Like a stone. A heavy one. Maybe even like a boulder.
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| Quote ="Paul2812"You must have. Poor in attack with a few errors, but embarrassingly awful in defense. Hull were clearly targeting him on our left side. He was like a turnstyle except for 1 good tackle in the 2nd half.
TS needs to show consistency in his attitude toward players who aren't performing and drop him. Like a stone. A heavy one. Maybe even like a boulder.'"
The 'boulder' move would be to give Gidley a rest, no lack of effort maybe too much effort, but, it's not coming off for him, perhaps a season too many and I thought Brown's second half was an improvement
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| Christ I wondered when the next thing to moan about would start. The whole team are crap at the moment so pointing fingers to just one player is stupid. Look at how good he was against Brisbane when the whole team is firing, are forwards are crap and outside backs are crap so what do you expect him to do.
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| Quote ="WWRLFC78"Am I the only on that thought Brown played a lot better than he had done previously? Yes, he got caught in possession a couple of times and threw that ridiculous pass which led to a try for Hull but he was looking for the work, he was linking better with Gidley and his outside backs and was running along the defensive lines looking for dummy and active runners.
Or did I watch a different bloke?'"
Nope..... He linked up very well with Gidley for two of Matty Russell's tries the passing from both looked quite crisp, and interestingly for Russell's first try when Gidley links up with Hughes, Hughes is taking the wrong line but fortunately the ball goes to ground and Gidley can link up with Toby King and put Russell in...
the interception pass, well they can go either way... as a watcher of Mark Thomas over the years older fans can sympathise..... If the Hull player stays on his man then Atkins Scores eaasy. but I have to admit I have always thought Brown is good for frequent interception passes throughout his career.
oh and it was his run and his perceived threat that forced the same Hull player who profited from his interception pass to rush up from an offside position and then along with 2 other Hull players hold desperately onto Brown giving us the match drawing penalty...
all in all a much improved performance but cant help thinking if Patton was on we'd have won.
i'd certainly be picking Jack Hughes out as my pitiful player of the week not Kevin Brown.
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| Quote ="moving on..."Matty Smith is a top half. Kevin Brown is not.
This post makes no sense.'"
Matty Smith is useless. That's why Wigan have booted him out and he's at the worst Saints team in the last 20+ years.
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| Quote ="CharlieWong"Matty Smith is useless. That's why Wigan have booted him out and he's at the worst Saints team in the last 20+ years.'"
You're wong.
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| I think Brown, usually, does the basics consistently well, but isn't the sort of flair player that will ever really spark a team into life.
His kicking game is decent enough when seeking field position, but doesn't provide anything special in their 20m as an attacking threat.
We're still missing that off the cuff Briers replacement, pity it went awry with Sandow, but Brown isnt going to provide the flair, but can be a steady hand.
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| Quote ="Geoff"True, but never a good one. Nobody was that bothered when Noble sold him to Huddersfield.'"
I don't think Brown was sold to Huddersfield, I'm sure he served his remaining Wigan contract out there...
I have a feeling the only selling of Brown, was to us.
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